WestSussexMackem
Winger
Look at us, we know who the Secret Footballer is. Pathetic.
Look at me, I didn't know who the secret footballer is despite the clues being blatantly obvious. Pathetic
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Look at us, we know who the Secret Footballer is. Pathetic.
Difference was then though mate that footballers at the top level weren't all millionaires which required different man management skills to get the best out of them.The same crap was spouted about Cloughie in his early years. Deemed to be an unstable, egotistical tyrant and overbearing obsessive who wanted to run every aspect of the club, from the boardroom down to the tea ladies. He wasn't exactly popular.![]()
Aye but Clough knew a thing or 2 about putting a decent side out.
Forgetting the fact that PDC was a complete basket case, his team selection & tactics were shit.
Difference was then though mate that footballers at the top level weren't all millionaires which required different man management skills to get the best out of them.
Of course Clough had these but his methods would have been of no use to the modern day player...........
Ferguson now couldn't start in the same vein he only succeeded due to the respect he had down to the longevity of his career and the fact he had seen a far few players grow up in his time there.............
I accept that for many he would be difficult to work with.Clearly an obsessive and extremely demanding character and naive enough to expect the same level of commitment from everyone associated with the club. Obviously not everyone's cup of tea, even I can understand that, but as I've said before, I'd love to have played for him.
sad state of affairs if true.
http://www.teamtalk.com/sunderland/9244704/-?
Are you people for real, believing sumthing from teamtalk, I read the 1st few lines and thought what a load of shite
Ferguson even said that he had to completely adapt his approach as the "hairdryer" would never work with the modern day player. Although he was still more than capable of carrying a grudge with certain players like Rooney.
Difference was then though mate that footballers at the top level weren't all millionaires which required different man management skills to get the best out of them.
Of course Clough had these but his methods would have been of no use to the modern day player...........
Ferguson now couldn't start in the same vein he only succeeded due to the respect he had down to the longevity of his career and the fact he had seen a far few players grow up in his time there.............
The same crap was spouted about Cloughie in his early years. Deemed to be an unstable, egotistical tyrant and overbearing obsessive who wanted to run every aspect of the club, from the boardroom down to the tea ladies. He wasn't exactly popular.![]()
I think if Ferguson was with us the hairdryer would have been given a dust and used in full effect!
No doubt he mellowed (slightly) over the years but only after he instilled a fear culture that remained to his final season. As you allude with Rooney but a number of stars with questionable commitment or attitude found out the hard way and were gone...Van Nistelrooy, Stam, Beckham, Keane etc.
Amazing how the players are so often pissed up during the week, but very few pictures have appeared on Twitter and the like.
Don't doubt that there is a drinking culture at the club, but think The Secret Footballer is totally exaggerating their knowledge of it.
That's bollocks![DOUBLEPOST=1396452106][/DOUBLEPOST]FFS Di Canio didn't get sacked because the players rebelled, he got sacked because the whole club rebelled.
I can't see how you could conclude that based on this season's five games with virtually a new team. Good grief Poyet has chopped and changed do much I'd like to know what you think of his?Aye but Clough knew a thing or 2 about putting a decent side out.
Forgetting the fact that PDC was a complete basket case, his team selection & tactics were shit.
That's what's required here. A big personality is what it takes to fully transform a club's fortunes. Plenty of managers out there will have enough talent to paddle a club around, a little "success" here, poor run of form there and then gone. In our position, to really do the business, you have to find a Shankly, a Ferguson or a Clough and back them and guess what, a lot of them are the type of personality some people just don't take to. Laying a solid foundation, a lasting base, will often involve pain and always takes time. How we'll ever square this one is beyond me.
He was here last season as well, remember?That's bollocks![DOUBLEPOST=1396452106][/DOUBLEPOST]
I can't see how you could conclude that based on this season's five games with virtually a new team. Good grief Poyet has chopped and changed do much I'd like to know what you think of his?
I take it that's two separate comments as it tends to read that we played with inverted wingers at Palace pointing out McCleans shortcomings when he had gone to Wigan then had he not ?He was here last season as well, remember?
The side PDC put out at Palace this season was one of the worst I've seen, the insistance on playing 4-4-2 with inverted wingers, even if we have players like McClean who were completely 1 footed.
They are.Has it ever crossed your mind that they aren't good enough?
I have witnessed the start of several (usually seven year) plans in my time. I haven't ever seen one last the course. They tend to concentrate on "the plan" as Short has been doing and the plan won't work if the football on pitch is way off course.Too true. We definitely need a little bit a madness and a whole lot of patience build something worthwhile and with longevity.
I know its international football but the Belgian FA came up with a plan and said it would take 7 years to produce the talent necessary to be competitive in tournament football.
So firstly a huge shift in philosophy then wait 7 years and we'll be awesome!
Johnson as well. He actually looked much healthier in pre-season compared to when he looked like a recovering smackhead last season.
Johnson as well. He actually looked much healthier in pre-season compared to when he looked like a recovering smackhead last season.