Schindlers List


That's not my experience of the place marra. Far from it.
That's fair enough, but it's based on a fairly recent poll carried out in 2017. It could be safe to presume that the further away we get from the event, the more forgetful they'll become.

I don't watch any German film or television, but there's an interesting article here regarding their difficult handling of their own history, especially in comparison to their old enemy to the east... German TV Is Sanitizing History
 
There's an alarmingly high percentage of young Germans that don't know what Auschwitz is. It's swept under the carpet.
Not sure if it's an urban myth, or not, but I was told that for a lot of years Japanese history books glossed over the period between 1941 and 1945 - "There was a war. japan were on the losing side."
 
Not sure if it's an urban myth, or not, but I was told that for a lot of years Japanese history books glossed over the period between 1941 and 1945 - "There was a war. japan were on the losing side."
:lol: Probably a myth, but somebody might be able to tell us better.

American made television & film often pokes fun at the idea that the German gloss over the same period.
 
That's fair enough, but it's based on a fairly recent poll carried out in 2017. It could be safe to presume that the further away we get from the event, the more forgetful they'll become.

I don't watch any German film or television, but there's an interesting article here regarding their difficult handling of their own history, especially in comparison to their old enemy to the east... German TV Is Sanitizing History
I suppose thats true of most countries mate.
I'm not sure, but I don't think the 2nd WW is a large part of the standard history teaching in this country either, judging by my stepkids lack of knowledge of the subject.
 
That's fair enough, but it's based on a fairly recent poll carried out in 2017. It could be safe to presume that the further away we get from the event, the more forgetful they'll become.

I don't watch any German film or television, but there's an interesting article here regarding their difficult handling of their own history, especially in comparison to their old enemy to the east... German TV Is Sanitizing History
Good article btw👍
Hmm maybe. I despair over the youth of today.
Starting to sound like my Grandad mate🤣🤣🤣
Suppose it's a generational thing mate.
I was born only 19 years after the end of the war. Both my parents had vivid memories of it as children, and Grandparents generation all served, so it was still very fresh in their minds. That obviously gets diluted through the generations
 
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Good article btw👍

Starting to sound like my Grandad mate🤣🤣🤣
Suppose it's a generational thing mate.
I was born only 19 years after the end of the war. Both my parents had vivid memories of it as children, and Grandparents generation all served, so it was still very fresh in their minds. That obviously gets diluted through the generations
To be honest, they're the sort of generation I wonder most about, rather than Germans today. Even where research was done, the right answer will have been obvious, and I suspect private feelings were never spoken of.

Even things like absolving the Wehrmacht of any guilt going as far back as the Nuremberg Trials - it's a myth that's been perpetuated ever since. There's an over simplification that the monsters were Hitler and his cronies, and the SS were the pantomime henchman. But that's not the case. And the SS was not a private cult. They were German people with a network of German friends and relatives like any other German person.

I don't want to keep harking back to film and television, but to be fair it is the medium that perpetuates the myth. Look at The Boy In The Striped Pyjamas. You've got the SS Officer keeping his 'work' from his wife, and the disapproving mother. It's a very syrupy affair, and not one I think you can take too seriously, as grim as the content might be.
 
To be honest, they're the sort of generation I wonder most about, rather than Germans today. Even where research was done, the right answer will have been obvious, and I suspect private feelings were never spoken of.

Even things like absolving the Wehrmacht of any guilt going as far back as the Nuremberg Trials - it's a myth that's been perpetuated ever since. There's an over simplification that the monsters were Hitler and his cronies, and the SS were the pantomime henchman. But that's not the case. And the SS was not a private cult. They were German people with a network of German friends and relatives like any other German person.

I don't want to keep harking back to film and television, but to be fair it is the medium that perpetuates the myth. Look at The Boy In The Striped Pyjamas. You've got the SS Officer keeping his 'work' from his wife, and the disapproving mother. It's a very syrupy affair, and not one I think you can take too seriously, as grim as the content might be.
I found that film really interesting, as it was really asking you to believe a separation from family life of him and his job, and a total lack of responsibility for his and their actions.
Quite unnerving and not one I could actually believe.
 
I found that film really interesting, as it was really asking you to believe a separation from family life of him and his job, and a total lack of responsibility for his and their actions.
Quite unnerving and not one I could actually believe.
It's the holocaust for the Facebook generation. It's not pyjamas, it's pants.
 
The ,Holocaust and the US, film on BBC 4 was interesting /shocking last night
I think something must have passed me by here, but what's with the increased Holocaust programming at present? I got in last night to clean the rabbits out, and there was Anne Frank and a photo of some Jewish boys in striped behind barbed wire on a page of the Daily Fail (I thought that a tad ironic).
 
I think something must have passed me by here, but what's with the increased Holocaust programming at present? I got in last night to clean the rabbits out, and there was Anne Frank and a photo of some Jewish boys in striped behind barbed wire on a page of the Daily Fail (I thought that a tad ironic).

Holocaust memorial day on the 27th Jan.

Watch this lady survivor telling a true story. I nearly fell off my chair at the end, the first time I saw it. Very powerful.

 
Holocaust memorial day on the 27th Jan.

Watch this lady survivor telling a true story. I nearly fell off my chair at the end, the first time I saw it. Very powerful.

Ahhhh. I was wonder if there was such a day, why there isn't a greater awareness about it.

I did wonder why it was a dramatic reading and where it might be going. Awful.
 
There's a very good film called Conspiracy, which gives a lot of insight into the planning of the holocaust and how some of the top people in government had to be won round. Not on compassionate grounds mind but things like potential labour shortages etc. Kenneth Brannagh and Stanley Tucci on top form!

It's scary though how a supposedly modern and well educated society could come up with and then carry out an extermination of millions of people.

Die Wannseekonferenz (TV Movie 2001) - IMDb
 

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