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Gala

Midfield
“FULWELL News” from the conservatives headline:

“Failed Sea Front Masterplan Scrapped”

The fucking knackers don’t know how to spell ‘seafront’ as a single word.

Fuck ‘em all Bond, Beck and Doyle they’re a total set of fuckwits.
 
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Osklen

Goalkeeper
They are now wanting a £20m leisure centre on the seafront. Even some complaints about the hotel planning application as it is hindering tourists visiting the seafront.
 

Gala

Midfield
They are now wanting a £20m leisure centre on the seafront. Even some complaints about the hotel planning application as it is hindering tourists visiting the seafront.
They’re thick as fuck mate, they talk nonsense, lie like fuck, take “expert advice” off nuggets and the best thing is they’ve achieved fuck all because houses are getting built, the Stack and hotel are on the way and the “grass it all” comment from Fatknack is going to disappear with every brick.
 

Osklen

Goalkeeper
They’re thick as fuck mate, they talk nonsense, lie like fuck, take “expert advice” off nuggets and the best thing is they’ve achieved fuck all because houses are getting built, the Stack and hotel are on the way and the “grass it all” comment from Fatknack is going to disappear with every brick.
The thing is you’d think that with some of the comments that there is no greenery at all locally...regardless of the fact of the fields between south bents and seaburn as well as Roker park. In addition to that they’ve got skate park, marine activity centre, glass centre to name but a few things. Why is that everyone has to have the opinion that we need to have everything on our doorstep! This is the reason why the city is fucked as every area fighting with each other for the same resources!
 

Gala

Midfield
The thing is you’d think that with some of the comments that there is no greenery at all locally...regardless of the fact of the fields between south bents and seaburn as well as Roker park. In addition to that they’ve got skate park, marine activity centre, glass centre to name but a few things. Why is that everyone has to have the opinion that we need to have everything on our doorstep! This is the reason why the city is fucked as every area fighting with each other for the same resources!
Sunderland overall is sadly in a poor state, the council should in my opinion focus on two areas, one being the Seaburn and Roker seafront area and the other being the Empire Theatre area, other things can grow from there, the town doesn’t have much of an economy and the casino/cinema/Sunniside area is an example of the council being a set of fuckwits.
 
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Osklen

Goalkeeper
Sunderland overall is sadly in a poor state, the council should in my opinion focus on two areas, one being the Seaburn and Roker seafront area and the other being the Empire Theatre area, other things can grow from there, the town doesn’t have much of an economy and the casino/cinema/Sunniside area is an example of the council being a set of fuckwits.
Totally agree although I’m not sure it was the council who delivered sunniside, as I think they had something called the sunniside partnership at the time. Not sure if it was under SCC control or linked to Sunderland Arc. Either way it just hasn’t worked (sadly) despite some decent efforts.

Also think that High Street West is important as it’s a first impression for visitors getting around the city and links Keel Sq (empire theatre area) with sunniside. Get a few bars and restaurants down there and it may just be a decent route to link the two places and create a more active night time economy.
 

Nookie Bear

Winger
The thing is you’d think that with some of the comments that there is no greenery at all locally...regardless of the fact of the fields between south bents and seaburn as well as Roker park. In addition to that they’ve got skate park, marine activity centre, glass centre to name but a few things. Why is that everyone has to have the opinion that we need to have everything on our doorstep! This is the reason why the city is fucked as every area fighting with each other for the same resources!
that’s been my frustration from the start with the leisure centre - the council said from the start they wouldn’t be funding one and no private developer will open one 6 miles from the one in shields. Sunderland is very well served with pools etc and just a short drive from shields yet there’s some sense of entitlement to have a duplicate facility built. They’re trying to compare Sunderland with Morpeth and Berwick who are getting new leisure centres built - it’s just comical really
 

Osklen

Goalkeeper
that’s been my frustration from the start with the leisure centre - the council said from the start they wouldn’t be funding one and no private developer will open one 6 miles from the one in shields. Sunderland is very well served with pools etc and just a short drive from shields yet there’s some sense of entitlement to have a duplicate facility built. They’re trying to compare Sunderland with Morpeth and Berwick who are getting new leisure centres built - it’s just comical really
Yeah exactly - Berwick is probably 50 mile from the nearest other leisure centre.

There is an argument that they built one in ashington recently therefore the Morpeth one should be pulled however I think it’s too important to the local council to keep residents on side there and as it’s existing they won’t take the decision to get rid of it.
 

Nookie Bear

Winger
Yeah exactly - Berwick is probably 50 mile from the nearest other leisure centre.

There is an argument that they built one in ashington recently therefore the Morpeth one should be pulled however I think it’s too important to the local council to keep residents on side there and as it’s existing they won’t take the decision to get rid of it.
There’s always been one in ashington and one in Morpeth , growing up in Amble we frequented both so there must be an established demand from the wider area for the council to support it. A completely new leisure pool in Seaburn in such close proximity to shields when there are several other pools within the city is just a flight of fancy
I would like to see a leisure pool in Sunderland but it needs to be in an accessible location for the whole city. Seaburn is two bus rides for most so somewhere in town would be better.
That’s a very good point , I’m not even sure the site is big enough to build it along with adequate parking at seaburn and if it went to planning no doubt there would be a whole raft of objections to it. Vaux site would be ideal but it’ll not happen at least not unless there’s a massive shift in local government and funding
 
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Bob Fleming

Striker
That’s a very good point , I’m not even sure the site is big enough to build it along with adequate parking at seaburn and if it went to planning no doubt there would be a whole raft of objections to it. Vaux site would be ideal but it’ll not happen at least not unless there’s a massive shift in local government and funding
Aye they all moan about traffic down there now so you can imagine the moans should a large facility like that be planned. They want leisure but don't want visitors. They're all over the place on Save Seaburn. They need to decide what they want.
 

Bob Fleming

Striker
We need an indoor bowling green as part of any leisure facility. The council have almost destroyed the game in the city since the one at Crowtree went.
No bad idea. Put a bar in it and it's actually quite a fun activity. They rebranded bowls in Australia a few years ago now all ages play and you can have a drink while doing it. Not sure it would be as popular indoors as outside in the sun mind.
 

the boot

Midfield
Nothing will work apart from housing. I’m I correct in thinking that fat Buddha has changed hands or at least name?
 

the boot

Midfield
House of Zen innit?
Not sure but you don’t change names if you are doing well. Tbh the place is in the state it is because it only appeals to people in sr6 mainly and visiting contractors. Any leisure facilities only appeal to people in the summer. The pubs and restaurants that are there are probably about right for the area. Even with the new houses I can’t see this changing. It’s like the bay fish shop it will only be taking custom from the other places down there. The stack will only take custom from the other restaurants and bars.
Unfortunately like the high st, coastal areas are not as popular as they once were. Expanding is not the right choice. Look at the beam. Health and safety firm expanding.
Ocado (Internet shopping) expanding
Everyone else is streamlining.
Only option in my opinion is houses loads of them.
 

Wilfy

Striker
Not sure but you don’t change names if you are doing well. Tbh the place is in the state it is because it only appeals to people in sr6 mainly and visiting contractors. Any leisure facilities only appeal to people in the summer. The pubs and restaurants that are there are probably about right for the area. Even with the new houses I can’t see this changing. It’s like the bay fish shop it will only be taking custom from the other places down there. The stack will only take custom from the other restaurants and bars.
Unfortunately like the high st, coastal areas are not as popular as they once were. Expanding is not the right choice. Look at the beam. Health and safety firm expanding.
Ocado (Internet shopping) expanding
Everyone else is streamlining.
Only option in my opinion is houses loads of them.
I think you could be right. The only way to service the leisure that’s there currently is to increase the number of people living on the doorstep of it. Saying that, 300 houses will only be probably 600-700 adults with spare income to spend. Say 10% go out of an evening, that’s still only 60-70 people. The Stack, if done right, could become a destination venue as The Palm has. I honestly don’t know how much footfall they can bring to the area by building more leisure.
 

the boot

Midfield
I think you could be right. The only way to service the leisure that’s there currently is to increase the number of people living on the doorstep of it. Saying that, 300 houses will only be probably 600-700 adults with spare income to spend. Say 10% go out of an evening, that’s still only 60-70 people. The Stack, if done right, could become a destination venue as The Palm has. I honestly don’t know how much footfall they can bring to the area by building more leisure.
Agreed mate. If the stack is done well like these pop up food stalls/bars and bucket and spade shops in the summer it will be a success but only to cost of other business, it will have to be run exceptionally well to become a destination venue, different stuff on every weekend and advertised well.
I notice even the palm has changed half a dozen times in the last 10 year. One of the boozers on the site as already changed name since it opened (the nightclub bit iirc). But tbf it’s good to see them trying on the front and private investment will only come with more footfall.
 

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