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Johnsafc said:
Why should we double down on a poor appointment. The bloke failed to get us up and is only still in a job because he’s cheap.

Do we have to wait until we blow another season before we get rid? Especially if there’s a manager with a vision who the new owners would want. It’s all short term nonsense to me, the bloke deserves the sack as he’s not the man to take the club forward.
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That’s clearly your view and I know others agree. I’d prefer whoever comes in to see the benefits of stability and to understand the reputation we have for seeing off managers - until the plan is in place and we can make a judgment on progress. Neither me or you know what lies ahead. Time will tell.
 

KittenMittens said:
Thesan Capital were the investment house, led by Jose Manuel Garrido, yes. And yes, well remembered. Essentially I was told that the initial deal was Donald to be a minority partner (25%), with someone else (now it makes sense that it was one of Methven or Sartori) holding the other 25% vs Thesan's 50.1% 'majority'.

At a very late point (late enough that I was being asked for a fan view on various issues and Jaap Stam had held informal talks to be manager) Donald demanded they split it 33.3% each, which Thesan clocked would mean that he and Sartori/Methven would be aligned against them as the true majority in any board situations where there was disagreement. They had loved him at the start, but this heel turn that meant they were going to end up being the makeweights soured them on the whole deal enough to walk away.

Easy to think they could have done it on their own, but Donald was meant to be the CEO. They probably thought the cost of starting again with another CEO was enough to just chalk it up as a loss and hope for the best.

I have asked a question about debt write-off by Short. Not sure whether it can be answered now or not, I guess it's meaningless enough now that if he ever knew, he'd probably just tell me :D
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That situation sounds like it was repeated again.......Groundhog day.
 
sir rowell cummins said:
That’s clearly your view and I know others agree. I’d prefer whoever comes in to see the benefits of stability and to understand the reputation we have for seeing off managers - until the plan is in place and we can make a judgment on progress. Neither me or you know what lies ahead. Time will tell.
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You can have stability with a bloke you appoint though. Just looking at the season ahead it’s not going to be won early doors regardless, they’ll want to bring their own manager in so earlier is better than waiting a better length of time.

How long would you give Parkinson?
 
Johnsafc said:
You can have stability with a bloke you appoint though. Just looking at the season ahead it’s not going to be won early doors regardless, they’ll want to bring their own manager in so earlier is better than waiting a better length of time.

How long would you give Parkinson?
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I don’t know ffs. It’s not about time. If we aren’t within three or 4 points of the top we aren’t doing well enough for me. We aren’t going to agree on this so let’s not bother.
 
Comeback_Kenwyne said:
Why would we? Admittedly, this is a scenario that is highly unlikely *on the pitch* because it implies us having slashed our wage bill AND being in the Championship (i.e. if we'd gone up under Ross, but still told - as we would - the Cattermoles and Oviedos etc. to fuck off). But if that were the case then our bigger cost base in that league would be more than compensated by the massive jump in revenue. I'm not saying we'd be turning a profit, but I don't see why our position would be WORSE than League One, given the better broadcasting money.

Also, you're nearer the Premiership holy grail. Donald would feel entitled to ask for a higher price in that league on that basis alone.
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Raising our wage structure with current squad to 16th in the league would mean losses of over 10m without any transfer fee spent.

Unless we just keep the current squad on the same wage and they're happy without any further compensation.

The championship is insane financially and unless you have a very good plan to get out of it asap, you're better off out of it. It is a money chasm and all but kills off the possibility of someone not being crazy rich taking us on.
 
sir rowell cummins said:
I don’t know ffs. It’s not about time. If we aren’t within three or 4 points of the top we aren’t doing well enough for me. We aren’t going to agree on this so let’s not bother.
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I was just wondering if you’d let him see out his 2 year deal.
 
Football Dinosaur said:
One of my all time favourite players even though he was only here for a season. Be much better off if we had one or two like him now.
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My favourite bit of that video is that after he goes through Carlton Cole (he did get the ball mind) he gets after the linesman whose flagged for the foul. Gives gim the specs to his eyes then visibly tells him to fuck off :lol:

I liked Cana, he was nuts but for spell him and Cattermole looked a real quality midfield pairing.
 
Coeus said:
Raising our wage structure with current squad to 16th in the league would mean losses of over 10m without any transfer fee spent.

Unless we just keep the current squad on the same wage and they're happy without any further compensation.

The championship is insane financially and unless you have a very good plan to get out of it asap, you're better off out of it. It is a money chasm and all but kills off the possibility of someone not being crazy rich taking us on.
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Pity FFP isn't enforced. Everyone would be able to survive and potentially thrive with the right football set up. We would still be able to financially bully our way to promotion apart from parachute clubs who manage to slash their wage bill in enough time to build a team.
 
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