Safe Standing Petition


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What you are showing me is a picture of a standing area - nothing more and nothing less. Its banned and should never be allowed to return to the top 2 divisions of English football. My opinion and nothing will change that opinion.

To be honest, I'm not sure why I bothered to reply, we've already had this discussion in another thread.

You aren't going to change your mind as your reasoning isn't based on rational logic. So however much we chuck factual statements at you, you'll just bat them away as you believe deep down you're morally right in this argument.

Your logical fallacy is false cause read this if you want to see how your connection to thinking that it is just the SEAT being introduced that stopped deaths at football grounds. The removal of pens which caused the ability to crush due to overcrowding had nothing to do with it... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Correct and the solution to that is to make people sit down or throw them out of the ground and give them a banning order not to reintroduce into our stadiums standing areas again.

Its like murdering somebody and then calling for murder to be made legal because everyone is doing it.


What you are showing me is a picture of a standing area - nothing more and nothing less. Its banned and should never be allowed to return to the top 2 divisions of English football. My opinion and nothing will change that opinion.
Genuine question. Have you looked into this system at all? Do you seriously just approach life with an approach of 'that's my opinion and I won't consider evidence or facts in any way' because that's what you're doing. You're making yourself look like an idiot because you're talking nonsense about something you don't understand at all.
 
People's ignorance towards this is class like. Try looking up what safe standing is before just hoying the book at it and disagreeing. It's nothing like what it use to be back in the day. You still have your own designated seat but with a rail in front of it.

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Those bars, seats whatever you want to call them could still be bent mangled if there's enough people behind them, 30 seats in a row doesn't mean 30 people. You could easy get 2 to a seat space.
 
LOL.

The only ones fuming are you lot ie younguns who never lived through what we did with standing. :oops:

I wouldnt be fuming at all. I'd simply shake my head, wait for the first incident to occur and loudly shout that "I/we told you so". Youd then be forced to admit that I/we were right. The lawyers would then have a field day with the FSF, the Government., the PL/FL and which ever club was daft enough to introduce it.

We could then count the body bags together.

And now you're just a confused old man scared of a bit change. The thought of seeing younger people standing up enjoying themselves at the match because you can't anymore kills you inside doesn't it, that's why if you can't enjoy yourself ne one can.
 
What does Germany have to do with this?

I suggest that the people who should "get their head out of their arse" are the ones asking for the reintroduction of standing.

It has surely zero chance of happening and the very first incident that occurs in these standing areas will be pounced upon - certainly by football fans like me who dont want too see any more incidents inside standing areas in this country or any more deaths.

here mate you completely embarrassed yourself on this issue the other day on a different thread, to the point where you were being so idiotic people believed you were just on a wind up. we all know your stance, and you are in the absolute minority as you refuse to even look at facts, or even discuss it, so why not just leave the thread to people who want to do something positive about a current issue.

all you keep saying is 'safe standing is unsafe' , 'its a return to terraces that will result in a repeat of history' blah blah blah. its boring and complete rubbish
 
Is this senile, uninformed old twat still going on? :lol:
Apparently so :lol:
Those bars, seats whatever you want to call them could still be bent mangled if there's enough people behind them, 30 seats in a row doesn't mean 30 people. You could easy get 2 to a seat space.
They're policed differently mate. You need to wake up anarl.

The most dangerous thing about it is I might try to temporarily balance my Balti pie on the rail in front and it might fall off.
 
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

standing up at the football is not like murdering anyone at all you gonk. That must be top of the list of outrageous things posted on the SMB like.
You think its funny that football fans died at football grounds involving stadiums with standing areas and English football fans. At 26 years old I'd suggest you have no idea at ll what you are talking about. Youve never stood in a predomionantly standing stadium in the top 2 divisions of English football.

I've lived through all of this with English football, I've seen the body bags tot up and having seen no incidents or body bags at any English football grounds since all seater stadia were introduced I'm absolutely vindicated is taking the stance that I am. There is not one reason - not one - why a standing area should be introduced into the top 2 divisions of english football - not one.

Put it this way, whatever problems english football currently has there is not one solution to any issue that involves the reintroduction of standing.

I'm dead against it, will always be dead against it and having lived through what happened to football fans in standing areas previously I see where it leads to.

Its a massive NO from me.
 
You think its funny that football fans died at football grounds involving stadiums with standing areas and English football fans. At 26 years old I'd suggest you have no idea at ll what you are talking about. Youve never stood in a predomionantly standing stadium in the top 2 divisions of English football.

I've lived through all of this with English football, I've seen the body bags tot up and having seen no incidents or body bags at any English football grounds since all seater stadia were introduced I'm absolutely vindicated is taking the stance that I am. There is not one reason - not one - why a standing area should be introduced into the top 2 divisions of english football - not one.

Put it this way, whatever problems english football currently has there is not one solution to any issue that involves the reintroduction of standing.

I'm dead against it, will always be dead against it and having lived through what happened to football fans in standing areas previously I see where it leads to.

Its a massive NO from me.
It's funny that you think any evidence relating to the old terraces is relevant mate aye.
 
here mate you completely embarrassed yourself on this issue the other day on a different thread, to the point where you were being so idiotic people believed you were just on a wind up. we all know your stance, and you are in the absolute minority as you refuse to even look at facts, or even discuss it, so why not just leave the thread to people who want to do something positive about a current issue.

all you keep saying is 'safe standing is unsafe' , 'its a return to terraces that will result in a repeat of history' blah blah blah. its boring and complete rubbish
No what I did was have a completely different opinion to you. An opinion that a lot of you younguns, who never lived through what we did, seemingly have no interest in respecting.
 
No what I did was have a completely different opinion to you. An opinion that a lot of you younguns, who never lived through what we did, seemingly have no interest in respecting.
You do realise a lot of people who stood on the terraces, while they wouldn't want them back, would want rail seating yeah?
 
It's funny that you think any evidence relating to the old terraces is relevant mate aye.
Sorry but this is "standing" no more and no less - however you wish to dress it up. It shouldnt be allowed and its frankly a disgrace that an organisation like the FSF is calling for it.
 
Those bars, seats whatever you want to call them could still be bent mangled if there's enough people behind them, 30 seats in a row doesn't mean 30 people. You could easy get 2 to a seat space.

that would require a "surge" which isn't possible when each row is divided by hip high barriers. It's virtually impossible to get into the row in front without climbing over the barrier in front. I've lost count of the amount of times I've ended up in the row in front celebrating a goal as things are currently (shin high seats).
 
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that would require a "surge" which isn't impossible when each row is divided by hip high barriers. It's virtually impossible to get into the row in front without climbing over the barrier in front. I've lost count of the amount of times I've ended up in the row in front celebrating a goal as things are currently (shin high seats).
Exactly. @Buchans Boots needs to read this as well.
 
You do realise a lot of people who stood on the terraces, while they wouldn't want them back, would want rail seating yeah?
If people are so overwhelmingly in favour of it why do you younguns give my views such credence? If I'm in a minority of 1 whats it to you whether I agree or disagree with your view? I've told you what i think and I simply dont agree with it. Pretty simple really but my lone view appears to have got loads of you hot under the collar for some reason.
 
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You think its funny that football fans died at football grounds involving stadiums with standing areas and English football fans. At 26 years old I'd suggest you have no idea at ll what you are talking about. Youve never stood in a predomionantly standing stadium in the top 2 divisions of English football.

I've lived through all of this with English football, I've seen the body bags tot up and having seen no incidents or body bags at any English football grounds since all seater stadia were introduced I'm absolutely vindicated is taking the stance that I am. There is not one reason - not one - why a standing area should be introduced into the top 2 divisions of english football - not one.

Put it this way, whatever problems english football currently has there is not one solution to any issue that involves the reintroduction of standing.

I'm dead against it, will always be dead against it and having lived through what happened to football fans in standing areas previously I see where it leads to.

Its a massive NO from me.

you're actually Tracey Crouch arent you? An ignorant, know-it-all, pompous tory gonk.

nee wonder West Brom had nee luck.
 
Apparently so :lol:

They're policed differently mate. You need to wake up anarl.

The most dangerous thing about it is I might try to temporarily balance my Balti pie on the rail in front and it might fall off.

Policed by who
the stewards can only do the job now cos the place is empty.
 
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