Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)


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As I understand it you want us to keep an open mind and balance Russias version of events against the west’s version of events

what baffles me though is why we you think we should take Russia seriously when they have so much trust in their own people they censor what they can see and or hear. Basically if they have the moral high ground why the need for censorship

you should feel lucky that you live in a society that has a free press where you hear both sides of the story and can make your mind up what the truth is

oh and stop being the SMBs very own Lord Hawhaw FFS
I'd rather be labelled a lord Haw Haw than be a racist who couldn't give a shit about all the women and kids we killed in the middle east.

We have a free press? OK. Regarding this free press we have, that shows both sides so that we can maker our minds up.. where has the other side disappeared to?

I never said Russia had a moral high ground. I said we don't have a moral high ground.
Ivan the Terrible began by fighting the Nazi's, it was only when the Ukrainians were overran by them did he and others convert and do their bidding. I'd hate to even imagine the tactics used by the SS to persuade them into going down such a route. Not trying to defend Ivan or his actions mind, far from it. But it was war and afterwards he managed to live a completely normal life. Doesn't convince me he or anyone like him would be much of a Nazi sympathiser is all I'm saying
What's the best source of info on him? There's something on Netflix but I haven't watched it.
 
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India is complex though. Space program & all that but abject poverty on streets. All driven by caste system.
If you say no aid to India its the street kids who take the hit unfortunately.
Then maybe India is another country that needs to be brought to account. They can afford a space program but can't feed their starving kids. Taking the piss. Then again Modi is another nasty nationalist.
 
I never said Russia had a moral high ground. I said we don't have a moral high ground.
I don't think anyone is excusing killing women and kids by anyone. As to moral high ground, none of the US, UK, or Russia look fantastic on that score, but here's a list from which we can play "which one of these is not like the others":

Bashar al-Assad; Volodymyr Zelensky; Saddam Hussein

The deaths of innocents are deplorable in all cases, but let's not pretend that the moral standing of the defenders versus attackers is also equivalent in all cases.
 
who are 'they'? it was you who intimated the nazi connection.
as for the ivan the terrible connection it appears as though you are quite happy to spread disinformation. same goes for your other claim. do you work for the kremlin?
a prime example of gaslighting.
I cant even understand what this post means. Can anyone translate?
 
As you can see from my posting history I'm a bit of a lefty, but I 100% agree
I wouldn't send another penny in aid to India, Pakistan, South Africa or anywhere else who show any support for Putin, that includes trying to play both sides like Modi & Khan. See how much foreign aid that evil bastard provides them

Its very educational to go onto an Indian media site such as the Times of India and read the comments section there. Russia supplies India with most of its arms and helped them in the past and I do understand their history of colonial oppression. But the vitriolic anti Western, anti US rhetoric is still surprising. I don't think we understand India at all, from people who come to Europe for work, if these anti Western comments actually reflect majority opinion there.
 
Its very educational to go onto an Indian media site such as the Times of India and read the comments section there. Russia supplies India with most of its arms and helped them in the past and I do understand their history of colonial oppression. But the vitriolic anti Western, anti US rhetoric is still surprising. I don't think we understand India at all, from people who come to Europe for work, if these anti Western comments actually reflect majority opinion there.
It’s bizarre that China and India are both allies of Russia as those two countries aren’t too fond of each other
 
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