Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)


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why single out ukraine? there were quite a few countries had nazi sympathisers.
I'm not saying they did single out Ukraine for this reason. But didn't 'Ivan the Terrible' from whatever death camp belong Ukraine way? Maybe there is an anti-Russian ex Nazi brigade element in Ukraine. But maybe it's exaggerated.
Having a functioning military and wanting peace are not mutually exclusive
"speak quietly and carry a big stick"
That is true. But who equipped the big stick, from when, and why?
 
I'm not saying they did single out Ukraine for this reason. But didn't 'Ivan the Terrible' from whatever death camp belong Ukraine way? Maybe there is an anti-Russian ex Nazi brigade element in Ukraine. But maybe it's exaggerated.
I'd love to see an ex Nazi brigade these days. They'd all be about 100!
 
There is evidence that they supplied them. But they did use them in the UK.
If they used them in UK as we are led to believe, why hasn't the main target appeared to say hello, I am alive. Could be done in any room, at any time, without revealing his whereabouts.
 
So what do we think of the convoy surrounding Kyiv? Do they actually have a plan after all, or is this going to end badly for them?

The general opinion amongst experts is it will be a bloodbath for the Russians. Conventional wisdom is 5/1 upper hand for defenders in Urban warfare.

And there is a hell of a lot of Ukrainian forces, equipment and advanced Western weapons in Kiyv.

Add in the terrain; 100 meter wide boulevards surrounded by high rise buildings and it’s likely to be a bloodbath. They are highly likely to shell it heavily first Is imagine
 
You mean dissenting voices should be silenced? Even those who are merely asking questions. When did 'our side' become such a parable of truth?

As I understand it you want us to keep an open mind and balance Russias version of events against the west’s version of events

what baffles me though is why we you think we should take Russia seriously when they have so much trust in their own people they censor what they can see and or hear. Basically if they have the moral high ground why the need for censorship

you should feel lucky that you live in a society that has a free press where you hear both sides of the story and can make your mind up what the truth is

oh and stop being the SMBs very own Lord Hawhaw FFS
 
The general opinion amongst experts is it will be a bloodbath for the Russians. Conventional wisdom is 5/1 upper hand for defenders in Urban warfare.

And there is a hell of a lot of Ukrainian forces, equipment and advanced Western weapons in Kiyv.

Add in the terrain; 100 meter wide boulevards surrounded by high rise buildings and it’s likely to be a bloodbath. They are highly likely to shell it heavily first Is imagine
Pretty sure Anthony Beevor mentions how the Nazi's shelled Stalingrad in his book and it made the city almost impregnable.
I just hope everyone who can gets out
 
I'm not saying they did single out Ukraine for this reason. But didn't 'Ivan the Terrible' from whatever death camp belong Ukraine way? Maybe there is an anti-Russian ex Nazi brigade element in Ukraine. But maybe it's exaggerated.

That is true. But who equipped the big stick, from when, and why?
Ivan the Terrible began by fighting the Nazi's, it was only when the Ukrainians were overran by them did he and others convert and do their bidding. I'd hate to even imagine the tactics used by the SS to persuade them into going down such a route. Not trying to defend Ivan or his actions mind, far from it. But it was war and afterwards he managed to live a completely normal life. Doesn't convince me he or anyone like him would be much of a Nazi sympathiser is all I'm saying
 
The general opinion amongst experts is it will be a bloodbath for the Russians. Conventional wisdom is 5/1 upper hand for defenders in Urban warfare.

And there is a hell of a lot of Ukrainian forces, equipment and advanced Western weapons in Kiyv.

Add in the terrain; 100 meter wide boulevards surrounded by high rise buildings and it’s likely to be a bloodbath. They are highly likely to shell it heavily first Is imagine
Which makes it harder to take.
 
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