Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)


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It would be illegal for allied forces to enter Ukrainian territory, at the formal request of an elected Ukrainian government? Really?
Has the Ukrainian government asked for allied forces to enter?
And you’re seriously telling me that reservations about direct conflict with Putin - on the grounds that such a conflict may end up nuclear - magically wouldn’t apply if it were a NATO ally that’s attacked? Again, really?
NATO would adhere to article 5.
And I need to “grow up”?

You’re on a roll here mind.
You’re not.
 
For a of the soft cocked C*nts on here, take your optical shit over to the optics forum so that this place can remain informal. Yes I'm pissed and .y finger X aren't functioning well, haway
 
Blimey just caught up on my reading, I haven't been able to be on much today as my head is all over the place (more than usual).
Just found out my cousin died earlier today so my head is a bit battered tbh.
Please hug your loved ones and tell them you love them, fuck man 😪.
Sorry to hear that news. Commiserations.
 
Blimey just caught up on my reading, I haven't been able to be on much today as my head is all over the place (more than usual).
Just found out my cousin died earlier today so my head is a bit battered tbh.
Please hug your loved ones and tell them you love them, fuck man 😪.
Sorry to hear that sad news, was your cousin very old?
 
Sorry about your cousin I hope you are as good as you can be in that situation,

I know you get invested in this thread and get angry and upset maybe this is one you need to just peek into now and then till your in a better place!

I’m not meaning to sound patronising here but family time is more important than this x
I’ve had a break from any war news today and this thread. I needed it. I’ve even been sleeping with the radio on and rolling news on there. It’s definitely a good idea to forget it for a while. Feel loads better tonight. Back to being depressed about it tomorrow :lol:
 
On the green screen subject read this comment, might explain a little it’s definitely been edited in some way though.

Let me clarify the poor explained title.

Looks like Putin was not there with that people, but that he was filmed with a green screen of background and they added the people and environment later. To make it more realistic, you can crop parts of the background and put them in foreground, so you will have background: ladies, middle layer: Putin with the green screen cropped, foreground layer: mic.

In a part looks like Putin's hand goes through the mic body, it can be because that's where the cropped mic of the foreground layer ended, thus the hand didn't have anything in front.

This would imply that Putin is hidden in a bunker and making all the public appearances fake with a green screen.

But it's not 100% as it should. Something is off here. It can be also a real video edited to look like this in order to imply what I said before. In the era of deep fake you can never be sure.

Edit: when you want to see if a video is edited, look for things like shadows, indirect shadows, reflections, environment, following people's eyes, etc. Things that should be there but they are not the focus of the video/scene

In this video I think Putin was truly there, you can see some reflections of his hand in the glass teapot?bottle?, And it would be reaaaaally strange for a professional editor to add that level of detail and forget the error of the mic. As I said before, there is something off in that part, can't say what
Minor point I suppose but let's stop referring to him as 'President ' Putin in the media. Zelensky is a President this piece of shit doesn't deserve any title other than Putin the twat
 
Has the Ukrainian government asked for allied forces to enter?

NATO would adhere to article 5.

Ukraine have pleaded multiple times for them to enter. Including begging US congress for air support today.

If NATO are happy to adhere to article 5 and risk nuclear war if he invades Estonia, why are they so scared to do anything now?
 
Has the Ukrainian government asked for allied forces to enter?

NATO would adhere to article 5.

You’re not.

Yes. They have. Unless you think we’d be policing the no fly zone which they’re begging for by force of long range psychic power.

NATO would. Presumably. However that’s in no way an answer to my question. As well you know.
 
China only thinking of Chinese interests.

Long term it needs to do business with the West as there's a billion wealthy customers but it also needs a relatively strong Russia onside for security.

I said earlier that ultimately Putin’s course of action will determine their response.

We need to remember that whilst they don’t like the West and orientate towards Russia they are also not suicidal. We share a planet and Putin, with his nuclear arsenal, is ultimately as much of a threat to them as he is the West. He may never target China, India etc… but it’s not just the immediate target. Research estimates somewhere between 100-150 nukes depending on where they land would herald a nuclear Autumn/Winter. Putin has more then that alone.

As such if their own intelligence starts to suggest he is unhinged or willing then frankly he becomes as much of a risk to them in the bigger picture as to us
 
Ukraine have pleaded multiple times for them to enter. Including begging US congress for air support today.

If NATO are happy to adhere to article 5 and risk nuclear war if he invades Estonia, why are they so scared to do anything now?

I think you’re barking up a pointless tree. He’s spent about two hours now contradicting his own points, dodging questions and pretending to not know what’s actually going on.

“Has the Ukraine asked the allies to come in” is the just the latest little nugget.
 
Putin is big buddies with China now , think he visited China in January.
China would not allow the use of strategic nukes due to the long term impact
 
I’ve had a break from any war news today and this thread. I needed it. I’ve even been sleeping with the radio on and rolling news on there. It’s definitely a good idea to forget it for a while. Feel loads better tonight. Back to being depressed about it tomorrow :lol:
Get some bait and hoy a film on Marra a happy one of course 😂
 
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