Ross Stewart


We made the mistake letting Maja leave as wouldn’t renew and that cost us promotion. Wouldn’t let Ross go now with no other centre forward even if he leaves for free next year. Get him fit and play him unless we get a sizeable fee

The club is a far different animal now than it was then.
 
It’s a risk reward strategy, that it looks like Stoke and Southampton are willing to take and we aren’t.

If it’s a case of he wants 20-25k, and we aren’t willing to take that risk, I don’t agree with it at all, and it’s the part of this model that’s so frustrating. It’s the same as a transfer or loan fee, with strikers it’s standard to pay that bit extra, it’s the calculated risk we just don’t seem to be willing to take, and I honestly think we need to.
 
It’s a risk reward strategy, that it looks like Stoke and Southampton are willing to take and we aren’t.

If it’s a case of he wants 20-25k, and we aren’t willing to take that risk, I don’t agree with it at all, and it’s the part of this model that’s so frustrating. It’s the same as a transfer or loan fee, with strikers it’s standard to pay that bit extra, it’s the calculated risk we just don’t seem to be willing to take, and I honestly think we need to.
Its really impossible for us to say without knowing the details. Like you say it would cost more to replace him with somebody on a lower wage by the time you factor in a transfer fee.

Personally I think Stewart is asking for alot more than 20k a week.

This is also nothing to do with the 'model'. We can't compete wage wise with clubs on parachute money and theyre about to sell a player for £50m!
 
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Its really impossible for us to say without knowing the details. Like you say it would cost more to replace him with somebody on a lower wage by the time you factor in a transfer fee.

Personally I think Stewart is asking for alot more than 20k a week.

This is also nothing to do with the 'model'. We can't compete wage wise with clubs on parachute money and theyre about to sell a player for £50m!

Take Southampton out of the equation though. Stoke have been in this race a while and it won’t go away, there’s 100% no smoke without fire. If they are willing to offer him 25-30k, if it comes down to a simple decision of “look give me 25k and I’ll stay on” and we choose to not do that, because it breaks our philosophy I don’t agree with it. Some might, I don’t, ya take a risk on a good striker.

Ultimately people were saying simms was never worth 7m, and Stewart is soooo much better. If that’s the case how much are we going to have to pay for a replacement at Stewart’s level. 14m? Also consider the wage here, how much is any player costing north of 5m going to want to be paid, especially a striker. I would bet Simms won’t have accepted less than 20k a week.

If it’s simply down to 5-10k a week, and we are choosing not to do it, it seems absolutely mad to me.
 
Take Southampton out of the equation though. Stoke have been in this race a while and it won’t go away, there’s 100% no smoke without fire. If they are willing to offer him 25-30k, if it comes down to a simple decision of “look give me 25k and I’ll stay on” and we choose to not do that, because it breaks our philosophy I don’t agree with it. Some might, I don’t, ya take a risk on a good striker.

Ultimately people were saying simms was never worth 7m, and Stewart is soooo much better. If that’s the case how much are we going to have to pay for a replacement at Stewart’s level. 14m? Also consider the wage here, how much is any player costing north of 5m going to want to be paid, especially a striker. I would bet Simms won’t have accepted less than 20k a week.

If it’s simply down to 5-10k a week, and we are choosing not to do it, it seems absolutely mad to me.
I agree. That's why I think the difference is more than like 10k. I think hes wanting alot personally.

The club will be aware of replacing him and the overall cost.
 
I think if there is a chance two clubs with money want him, we need to take advantage of them bidding against each other and selling.
We could potentially end up with some good income which can be reinvested and actually allow us to sort this striker situation out properly.
Its become boring and im happy if we just move on.
 
Take Southampton out of the equation though. Stoke have been in this race a while and it won’t go away, there’s 100% no smoke without fire. If they are willing to offer him 25-30k, if it comes down to a simple decision of “look give me 25k and I’ll stay on” and we choose to not do that, because it breaks our philosophy I don’t agree with it. Some might, I don’t, ya take a risk on a good striker.

Ultimately people were saying simms was never worth 7m, and Stewart is soooo much better. If that’s the case how much are we going to have to pay for a replacement at Stewart’s level. 14m? Also consider the wage here, how much is any player costing north of 5m going to want to be paid, especially a striker. I would bet Simms won’t have accepted less than 20k a week.

If it’s simply down to 5-10k a week, and we are choosing not to do it, it seems absolutely mad to me.

There's not a hope in hell Simms will be on £20,000 a week at Coventry.

The average wage for Championship players is highly inflated due to those who are down here on PL contracts at clubs who are using parachute payments to fund ridiculous wage bills (and shock horror, they almost always end up going back up as a result).

Simms was widely reported to be on £7,000 a week at Everton for context.

If you take someone like Frigan, as he's not playing for Dinamo or Hadjuk even £5,000 a week would be life-changing money for him and more than 99% of players playing outside of the aforementioned clubs make in that league.

Do you honestly think a club like Westerloo can compete with us on wages, even if we were offering a modest contract?

It's not always as simple as saying "if we offer X, the player will sign".
 
It seems to me that it's a situation where both parties are doing the right thing for themselves, and at the moment there are no winners and no losers.

Stewart holds the upper hand, but only if he recovers to be the player he was, so if he can get a raise by moving before proving that, then that's what he'll do, because if he's not he's covered himself as best he can. We would be daft to lumber ourselves with potentially the highest paid player at the club who can't contribute, and may never contribute meaningfully or consistently again, so if we can get a decent fee and buy a decent fit striker, that's what will happen. He takes the risk that no-one else gambles on him and he ends up having to take less or the same I suppose, and maybe on a shorter term until he proves himself, at which point this all starts again.

It's never ideal, but it's also real money and real consequences which we as a club have shown we're now pretty much averse to gambling on negative outcomes.
 
He’ll not be on £15k now mind. If you believe other posts, it’s a relatively small wage. Unless his one year contract extension moved his wage up a bit.

We also can’t make a team bid for him.
It appears he’s being tapped up by the likes of Stoke and Southampton

get him out the door, and let them sort his injury out and get someone who wants to play for safc in

he obviously doesn’t want to do that anymore, so get him out the door
 
Why is it obvious?
Because there are stories everyday of him and the club not able to agree a new contract over the last 12 months and whispers that he’s off to Southampton or stoke for about the same period

it’s like a klaxon and if you can’t hear it, nothing I can do about that
 

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