Ross out of his depth imo


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A shallow reaction so far - I'd like to see JR go off the deep end at his players.

He may do in private - but he should never do it in public - that's a basic principle of man-management. Publicly hammering the players would be counter productive and a great way to lose the dressing room.

No one is happy with lots of draws but the whole club is rebuilding and they deserve a bit of time and patience from us.
 
I want to know what happened to the idea of all out attacking football that was mooted by JR at the beginning of the season. I believe he said his team's do this, it does leave them vulnerable at the back but he expects to score more than the opposition. Load of bollocks. Very poor football that we have to watch.

We were playing like that prior to Christmas. But then moany fans started saying "never keep a clean sheet etc". I'm not for one second saying it's the fans fault we're playing shit. Just that be careful what you wish for...
 
Part of the reason we are down where we are is the lack of long term planning and the constant changing of managers. Sacking him in the summer means we just have to start again.
Regardless of where we finish this season (FWIW I am convinced we will be top 2) he should and will get another season as a minimum

Why are we even having this conversation FFS?


How are we struggling to get 2nd? The teams above has played more games so it stands to reason they have more points
All this bed wetting from 1 f***ing draw. honestly man, this place is getting worse by the year


Spot on.

Unfortunately we're having this conversation because of three sets of people. Younguns, mags and imbeciles.

Yes be unhappy with the performance of late but temper that with the shite we've been served over the last few years. These lads are at least giving it some effort. Give them and the manager time to bed in and gel. It takes longer than people realise.
 
One of the lads just sent me this about Huddersfield under Lee Clark in league one. Bits of it definitely apply to our situation....

A run of 43 league games without defeat recently ended and even though it’s over, it’s still three defeats in 55 games. However, scratch beneath the surface a little and there’s more to it. Despite playing almost a season’s worth of games without a loss, there Town are – stuck in League 1. Of those 43 games, 20 of them were draws. In very few did they swashbuckle their way to a huge win and really get the Galpharm Stadium crowd rocking.

They have also displayed an uncanny ability to lose the advantage from winning positions. Time and again they’d concede one, maybe two, late in a game to drop points thanks to a panicky defence and an inability to retain possession. They’d struggle to break down sides that, perhaps fearful of that unbeaten run, came and parked the bus.

Those sides are invariably ones from lower down the table and it was an inability to beat that kind of unit, where promotion rivals had few problems, that has seen Huddersfield remain a League 1 side. Cracks were papered over by a welter of statistics and wins against the teams around them in the upper reaches of the league table.

Why Lee Clark had to go

I certainly don't think Ross should go mind.
 
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One of the lads just sent me this about Huddersfield under Lee Clark in league one. Bits of it definitely apply to our situation....

A run of 43 league games without defeat recently ended and even though it’s over, it’s still three defeats in 55 games. However, scratch beneath the surface a little and there’s more to it. Despite playing almost a season’s worth of games without a loss, there Town are – stuck in League 1. Of those 43 games, 20 of them were draws. In very few did they swashbuckle their way to a huge win and really get the Galpharm Stadium crowd rocking.

They have also displayed an uncanny ability to lose the advantage from winning positions. Time and again they’d concede one, maybe two, late in a game to drop points thanks to a panicky defence and an inability to retain possession. They’d struggle to break down sides that, perhaps fearful of that unbeaten run, came and parked the bus.

Those sides are invariably ones from lower down the table and it was an inability to beat that kind of unit, where promotion rivals had few problems, that has seen Huddersfield remain a League 1 side. Cracks were papered over by a welter of statistics and wins against the teams around them in the upper reaches of the league table.

Why Lee Clark had to go

I certainly don't think Ross should go mind.

I was thinking of Clark and Huddersfield yesterday mate, it's interesting that you've brought this up. Similar to us in some ways. Drawing too many games, playing poor, unentertaining football.
 
One of the lads just sent me this about Huddersfield under Lee Clark in league one. Bits of it definitely apply to our situation....

A run of 43 league games without defeat recently ended and even though it’s over, it’s still three defeats in 55 games. However, scratch beneath the surface a little and there’s more to it. Despite playing almost a season’s worth of games without a loss, there Town are – stuck in League 1. Of those 43 games, 20 of them were draws. In very few did they swashbuckle their way to a huge win and really get the Galpharm Stadium crowd rocking.

They have also displayed an uncanny ability to lose the advantage from winning positions. Time and again they’d concede one, maybe two, late in a game to drop points thanks to a panicky defence and an inability to retain possession. They’d struggle to break down sides that, perhaps fearful of that unbeaten run, came and parked the bus.

Those sides are invariably ones from lower down the table and it was an inability to beat that kind of unit, where promotion rivals had few problems, that has seen Huddersfield remain a League 1 side. Cracks were papered over by a welter of statistics and wins against the teams around them in the upper reaches of the league table.

Why Lee Clark had to go

I certainly don't think Ross should go mind.
You get to the point where only losing two games becomes an irrelevant argument. You could lose 0 games and still go down.

We’d have been better off winning 6 and losing 6 of the 12 draws.
 
One of the lads just sent me this about Huddersfield under Lee Clark in league one. Bits of it definitely apply to our situation....

A run of 43 league games without defeat recently ended and even though it’s over, it’s still three defeats in 55 games. However, scratch beneath the surface a little and there’s more to it. Despite playing almost a season’s worth of games without a loss, there Town are – stuck in League 1. Of those 43 games, 20 of them were draws. In very few did they swashbuckle their way to a huge win and really get the Galpharm Stadium crowd rocking.

They have also displayed an uncanny ability to lose the advantage from winning positions. Time and again they’d concede one, maybe two, late in a game to drop points thanks to a panicky defence and an inability to retain possession. They’d struggle to break down sides that, perhaps fearful of that unbeaten run, came and parked the bus.

Those sides are invariably ones from lower down the table and it was an inability to beat that kind of unit, where promotion rivals had few problems, that has seen Huddersfield remain a League 1 side. Cracks were papered over by a welter of statistics and wins against the teams around them in the upper reaches of the league table.

Why Lee Clark had to go

I certainly don't think Ross should go mind.
Ross is not leaving anytime soon.
There are a lot of parallels with this ^^ though. Especially dropping four points in the last month from 87th minute equalisers. If we don't go up automatically it will be from this tendency to lose a lead. Also it is the home draws against Shrews, Wycombe, Oxford, Fleetwood etc. rather than how we did against our promotion rivals.
Ross and the team need to get some game management tactics sorted out to see games through. And if this means falling over a lot when tackled; flapping about at throw-ins and free-kicks; pretending to be hurt; passing pointlessly in our own half; all kinds of shithousery that teams use against us, then I say 'bring it on'.
 
Ross is not leaving anytime soon.
There are a lot of parallels with this ^^ though. Especially dropping four points in the last month from 87th minute equalisers. If we don't go up automatically it will be from this tendency to lose a lead. Also it is the home draws against Shrews, Wycombe, Oxford, Fleetwood etc. rather than how we did against our promotion rivals.
Ross and the team need to get some game management tactics sorted out to see games through. And if this means falling over a lot when tackled; flapping about at throw-ins and free-kicks; pretending to be hurt; passing pointlessly in our own half; all kinds of shithousery that teams use against us, then I say 'bring it on'.
Surely that is what Dunne tried yesterday to no avail? Don't rely on shit refs making the right decision first of all!
 
Love the 'When Grigg starts scoring' rhetoric, from some of the same people who were happy enough to see Maja go. It just isn't that easy.
 
I was impressed by how good his in-game tactics were earlier in the season but not now. He continues to play Max Power who has done bugger all for months. We're desperate for energy and legs in the middle and you have O'Nien who offers that, has been playing well and yet he leaves him off.

Then you're quite clearly trying to counter attack when they're pushing forward, and he takes McGeady who was the best midfielder at breaking and creating something. Bit bizarre. He keeps playing Reece James but he's arguably the 3rd best LB at the club.

Cracks are starting to show a little bit. These are 3 huge opportunities now for us to slice down that gap to Luton. We need 9/9 points or automatic starts to look a bit more challenging.
 
Been poor the past couple month but first season in charge after us plummeting down the league , will be judged in May by me and not before
Totally, he has done a hell of a lot more good than bad in his short time here, ridiculous for anyone to call for his head early when so well placed, only idiots and mags would disagree....
 
if we don't go up this season there will be unrest with the fans

Not the real ones...just those who think we are entitled because we're a ''big team".

Ross is suffering for overachieving in the first half of the season. It raised expectations. Now we've had our best player poached and he is trying to meld in 5 new players to an already big squad.

Just for once we should stick with a manager for more than a season. If we really believe we are better fans than the Mags at any rate . ..
 
Aye, sack him if we don't go up, spend the summer looking for a manager, bring someone in, they then need time to assemble a squad of their own players , time to 'settle' , he starts next season inconsistent, people say he needs time, then by February people are calling for his head , and round and round we go. Are we ever going to just give a manager 2 seasons?? Fucks sake, everyone so impatient, now now now!! Yes we look shite at the moment, he needs questioning if power starts on Tuesday, but sacking? No way , haven't we learned anything?
Nope
 
And is being found out.

Donald will not accept this for much longer imo.

I agree Donald must be absolutely mortified that we are in February and our pathetic manager has yet to lose a home league game, is unbeaten in the last 1o games in all competitions, has us in a cup semi final and has only picked up a mere 14 points from the last 8 league matches. Its a bloody disgrace and we all deserve better.

He must be bloody livid and ready to pull the trigger..............

Got to get shot of Ross now. He's clearly killing the club single handed by losing 2 league games in 29.
 
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He's not out of his depth at all but he has to find a way of holding onto leads. For whatever reason, we have been coming out after half time looking half asleep a lot of the time. He has to sort that out.
Therein lies the problem. We shouldn't be looking to hold on to leads. We should be looking to demolish opponents which, for the most part, are inferior to our ability. It's a question of belief.
 
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