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46 goals in 100 games is a cracking record for someone who has played in numerous positions for England and not always up front.
Jimmy greaves had an amazing goal to game ratio for England, way better than any of them above him in the all time scorers.
Rooney will break the record unless he gets an injury. The fans are on rooney a back a lot because the media over hype him and its cool to hate a popular person
 
Jimmy greaves had an amazing goal to game ratio for England, way better than any of them above him in the all time scorers.
Rooney will break the record unless he gets an injury. The fans are on rooney a back a lot because the media over hype him and its cool to hate a popular person
Thinking about it, I suppose its the media I have a problem with. To be fair to Rooney, he could never be the player the press said he was.
 
In qualifiers he does the business 26 goals in 45 games.
I hadn't realised he'd only played 6
games in the Euro Finals where he's scored 5 goals.
1 in 11 in World Cup finals isn't too clever though nor has his performances, having said that even Ronaldo has always fell well short in World Cup Finals.
 
Has not lived up to his hype when he was a teenager as looked like he was going to be a world beater.

What I mean by that is it looked like he was going to be one of the best in the world don't think that has happened but still been a fantastic player.

Has been a disappointment in the big tournaments no doubt about it,however don't think he should have been dropped,because to drop someone you need someone better to take his place and we have never had anyone in the last 5 years or so no where near as good.

Sturridge was better last season.

Pretty sure he's been voted in the FIFA World XI in recent times. Anyway all about opinions, I would have him in mine any day of the week.

You'd have Wayne Rooney in your World XI now?

That's mental.

His International career has been nothing to shout about. Continually falls short at tournaments. Most notably in South Africa when he was absolutely atrocious and should have been dropped. His club career has been up and down performance wise. He's the best English striker ATM but that's not saying much TBH.

Spot on. Judging by some of the comments in here, people listen to media way more than they should.
 
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Sturridge was better last season.



You'd have Wayne Rooney in your World XI now?

That's mental.

Sturridge for to selfish a player IMO,not a team player like Rooney.

TBH Sturridge did go through a purple patch last season,but IMO should never have dropped Rooney for him,in fact both would have properly played.

Don't get me wrong don't think Rooney is as good as some make him out on here as think about at least 10 other forward players better than him in the world,but IMO he is the best player we (England) have by quite some distance.

Don't think I can remember a time he should have been dropped for England as like I say nobody better to take his place.
 
His International career has been nothing to shout about. Continually falls short at tournaments. Most notably in South Africa when he was absolutely atrocious and should have been dropped. His club career has been up and down performance wise. He's the best English striker ATM but that's not saying much TBH.

Neither has Ronaldo's IMO or Ibrahimovic yet there still considered among the best (and rightly so). People put too much emphasis on international football, Rooney's club record is top class especially for someone who hasn't always played as a striker.
 
Sturridge for to selfish a player IMO,not a team player like Rooney.

TBH Sturridge did go through a purple patch last season,but IMO should never have dropped Rooney for him,in fact both would have properly played.

Don't get me wrong don't think Rooney is as good as some make him out on here as think about at least 10 other forward players better than him in the world,but IMO he is the best player we (England) have by quite some distance.

Don't think I can remember a time he should have been dropped for England as like I say nobody better to take his place.

Compared to what he could have become, he's been a disappointment. There was a time you could never envision him being dropped, but in recent years that's not been the case.
 
His International career has been nothing to shout about. Continually falls short at tournaments. Most notably in South Africa when he was absolutely atrocious and should have been dropped. His club career has been up and down performance wise. He's the best English striker ATM but that's not saying much TBH.


He is not just the best England striker ATM he has been the best for the last 10 years although agree competition not exactly high.

Compared to what he could have become, he's been a disappointment. There was a time you could never envision him being dropped, but in recent years that's not been the case.

Yeah more or less said that in another post mate,agree in big tournaments he has been a big disappointment and when he first burst on the scene thought he would become one of the worlds best and agree he has fell well short of that,however still think he should never have been dropped for England,properly more to do with lack of quality forwards we have had though.
 
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he has looked a different player the last couple of England games and seems to be enjoying the captaincy and leadership
 
Has had a great career, won everything at club level apart from F.A cup iirc.
Great international career in terms of personal acheivments. Will break the record by a long way IMO. And probably get the most ever caps also.
But he won't go down as one of the greats when he retires, no chance.
 
When should he ever have been better than messi and ronaldo by some distance?

Far better prospect at 17 than either of them. They've since left him in the dust but if he'd worked he'd have stayed ahead. Frightening, he was.

The stick he gets off the media and fans is mental. No other country in the world would treat their best player like that.

No other country in the world would put up with their 'best player' slagging off the supporters live on tv after yet again not turning up to an international tournament.
 
No other country in the world would put up with their 'best player' slagging off the supporters live on tv after yet again not turning up to an international tournament.

There's a million things wrong with the entire England set up and the fans attitude is one of them. Other countries wouldn't behave like that towards their best players, especially at a World Cup.
 
There's a million things wrong with the entire England set up and the fans attitude is one of them. Other countries wouldn't behave like that towards their best players, especially at a World Cup.
Would other players have a go at paying supporters by shouting abuse into the camera? Cuts both ways.
 
Would other players have a go at paying supporters by shouting abuse into the camera? Cuts both ways.

Wouldn't really call it abuse. Fair enough he shouldn't have done it, but he didn't intentionally not play well that game. He was clearly frustrated & disappointed with the game and let it out in the wrong way afterwards. He apologised for it afterwards. He's only human - if people who were supposed to be supporting me started booing me I'd be pissed off. Never really got booing your own players - save that for the opposition or the ref.
 
Still England's best player & will prob be our all time top goal scorer. not bad for a man who has been played out of position a few times, and when not fully fit & when his supply has been poor due to negative tactics.
But you can balance that out against the fact that a lot of his goals have been against shit/mediocre teams, the likes of which weren't around in Charltons day.
 
But you can balance that out against the fact that a lot of his goals have been against shit/mediocre teams, the likes of which weren't around in Charltons day.
If you consider his International goals against Brazil, Argentina, Swiss, Croatia and Uruguay...I guess so as they are ranked much lower than us. Also many goals against Chelsea, Arsenal, Man. City and Liverpool...again I guess so as they are not really good in the Premier League. Against Barcelona and Bayern Munich as they are minnows as well.
 
If you consider his International goals against Brazil, Argentina, Swiss, Croatia and Uruguay...I guess so as they are ranked much lower than us. Also many goals against Chelsea, Arsenal, Man. City and Liverpool...again I guess so as they are not really good in the Premier League. Against Barcelona and Bayern Munich as they are minnows as well.
I didn't realise we were now talking about his domestic/European record.
 
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