Roker avenue rapists found guilty

Horatio Pugwash said:
I disagree,
They weren't tarring all foreigners as rapists. Having spoken to a couple of people who were at the march it was to raise awareness of the rise in incidents in the area which they felt weren't being reported in the media at that time.
As I posted on another thread, the Northumbria police website shows that there was a higher than average number of sexual and violent attacks in the area ( I admitted at then time I couldn't find any stats seperating the two crimes).
I find it quite insulting that you label all those people of Roker who marched as racists when they were just trying to raise awareness of a rise in a particularly vile crime.
Do you consider the local school racist for warning parents about the problem too?
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A lot of them were racists. Massive huge racists (you only had to look at their facebook profiles). Others were concerned residents many of whom were getting taken in by a lot of the spin put out by arseholes.
 


monkeytassle said:
It is about a culture though isn't it. Call it race or religion or whatever but there is a disproportionate problem in a sub continental population living in deprived towns of a certain religion and/or belief that are systematically abusing vulnerable white girls. The police have been proven to be negligent on it for the supposition of being racist. They've been instructed to turn a blind eye to it in fact.


So yes. There is a problem within a Muslim community. It isn't racist. It isn't anything to do with Tommy Robinson. It isn't to to with ukip or the edl. The problem lies on an archaic society that treats women like f***ing shite. So fuck off with your pc bullshit. We know the root cause but dont want to tackle it for the fear of being labelled "racist".
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Says us ,the country to thank for benny hill,sid the sexist ,mother in law jokes,women stripping on a sunday while the wife cooks dinner with the kids ,girlie calendars ,centruries of sexism and unequal rights and opportunities :lol:
 
JAZZMANB said:
They were just arsehole men who prey on the opposite sex ,rapists.They didn't read the good book and have an epiphany .These ancient books of any faith have less and less of a message for the people of 2018 in britain ,muslims included .They will ignore the book when it suits so we shouldn't let them off with their responsibilities
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Nobodies letting them off with their responsibilities.

I think you underestimate the effect religion has on certain people.

Either way Islam still justifies their actions
 
Horatio Pugwash said:
And the fact that there has been a rise in sexual and violent attacks in the area? Is that just "spin"( backed up by Northumbria police stats)
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We went through all this months ago. There's a rise across the whole force and across the whole country. It's not immigration to blame for it. If you care to believe analysis of statistics they say there isn't a rise in crime. There is a rise in reporting it. And that changes in the way they classify it makes it look like it's rising.

But I can't be arsed to look for that. You keep thinking non of those people who whipped up a frenzy were racist.
 
Aituk7 said:
Nobodies letting them off with their responsibilities.

I think you underestimate the effect religion has on certain people.

Either way Islam still justifies their actions
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Ok doke ,you go round expecting every Muslim to be a criminal in waiting and i'll not
 
Aituk7 said:
Are you for real?

Talk about whataboutism. A monumental case of false equivalency there
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You take extremes and tar everyone ,we aren't all benny hill sid the sexist types yet they all are ,In the real every day world the majority respect everybody
 
JAZZMANB said:
Ok doke ,you go round expecting every Muslim to be a criminal in waiting and i'll not
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No one's saying that either.

JAZZMANB said:
You take extremes and tar everyone ,we aren't all benny hill sid the sexist types yet they all are ,In the real every day world the majority respect everybody
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It's you who equated the two, not me.

I can appreciate fine well there is a difference between muslims and Islam.

Read the Quran, you might learn something
 
Horatio Pugwash said:
I disagree,
Having spoken to a couple of people who were at the march it was to raise awareness of the rise in incidents in the area which they felt weren't being reported in the media at that time.
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It's often mention in the media though? We don't need a load of knuckledraggers marching through the streets intimidating people to highlight what is going on. It's then up to the police to uphold the law. It's not up to a load of neo-nazi vigilantes.
 
Bob Fleming said:
We went through all this months ago. There's a rise across the whole force and across the whole country. It's not immigration to blame for it. If you care to believe analysis of statistics they say there isn't a rise in crime. There is a rise in reporting it. And that changes in the way they classify it makes it look like it's rising.

But I can't be arsed to look for that. You keep thinking non of those people who whipped up a frenzy were racist.
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And there's the difference
I'm not saying non(e) of those that "whipped up a frenzy" were racist. Maybe some were (I don't know and I refuse to guess how many)
I'm saying the bulk of those people who marched were marching to raise awareness of a problem in the area. A rise in the number of young lasses being approached and scared. A rise in actual sexual attacks. As I posted, even the local school was concerned enough to send a text out. These were incidents they were seeing themselves (backed up by the. police stats which you have dismissed out of hand).

You are saying a lot of the people on the march were "massive huge racists" with no evidence except that you want that to be so. You are labelling people concerned about the safety of their wives and kids as racists.

DJP said:
It's often mention in the media though? We don't need a load of knuckledraggers marching through the streets intimidating people to highlight what is going on. It's then up to the police to uphold the law. It's not up to a load of neo-nazi vigilantes.
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There were several incidents not mentioned in the media

The people who marched to raise awareness of the issue were neither "knuckledraggers" or "neo-nazi vigilantes" man
 
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Aituk7 said:
No one's saying that either.


It's you who equated the two, not me.

I can appreciate fine well there is a difference between muslims and Islam.

Read the Quran, you might learn something
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No interest,look where its got you ,worrying about everyone else .I Just see stuff and read it that way ,doing alright thanks
 
DJP said:
It's often mention in the media though? We don't need a load of knuckledraggers marching through the streets intimidating people to highlight what is going on. It's then up to the police to uphold the law. It's not up to a load of neo-nazi vigilantes.
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The police haven't been upholding the law all over the country for decades, that is the problem.
 
bigmarlon said:
Before I write this post, just to clarify, I'm not racist even in the slightest. In fact, I'm anti-racist, and if I see racism on this board be sure that I'll be smashing that report button as hard as I can. My 2 children were born to a Black woman, who I'll love til the day I die, and my 3-day old Grandson's father is Indian. People are people. Some are good, some are bad. Race is no indication of what kind of person someone is.

(see grandson for proof. Actually I just wanted to show him off. Toppa eh. :cool:)
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But, Multiculturism does NOT work in the sense that some think it does. Or rather, in the way they want it to. If it did work, we wouldn't have so many f***ing wars all around the world. Arabs against Jews, Christians against Muslims, Palestinians against Israelis, Africans against Africans... whatever, it doesn't work. History has proved that. People of a country need to have a shared identity. Be that British, or English, or American, whatever. We all need to be playing by the same rules. Without a shared identity it's chaos.

The reason so many people are anti-immigration in this country is because some people come to this country and refuse to become British. They want to set up a little part of home in the middle of Birmingham and reject the British way of life completely. They don't integrate. That won't work, it doesn't work. The only thing it accomplishes is resentment and anger from the people who've spent their entire lifetimes building this country.

Having a mixed race population is NOT the same thing as multiculturalism. We need to stamp out racism in this country and welcome people of all nations, of course, but we need to all do it together, as one culture, ie, as Britons.
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Something something racist. Something something nationalist. Worse than Hitler etc
 

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