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I am not disputing he had a bad game mate, never have because it’s clear he must have, like you say and be fair to your argument the majority have said soo.

However my personal opinion is calling every ref shit every week is not going to change anything at all.

Giving refs help with VAR or clamping down tough on players cheating and diving might just help.

That is what I meant by people don’t get it!

People still fail to grasp if refs are shit every week there must be a reason for this and that reason imo is support and help for them is required.

I am not trying to be awkward I genuinely believe that



I find it soo contradictiory how players,fans ,clubs go out of the way to make a refs job as diffcult as possible, see how diffcult the job is week in week out, see players cheating week in week out, yet at the same time despite knowing all this decide the best thing to do is slate them and call them.
If they aren’t up to the job, they shouldn’t do it. I get the players diving etc but this thread isn’t about that it’s about a referee on Tuesday night who was at best incompetent.

If a referee does his job to a decent standard guess what...... no thread, if he’s shite(regularly this season) people start a thread and complain about them.
 
If they aren’t up to the job, they shouldn’t do it. I get the players diving etc but this thread isn’t about that it’s about a referee on Tuesday night who was at best incompetent.

If a referee does his job to a decent standard guess what...... no thread, if he’s shite(regularly this season) people start a thread and complain about them.

They will not do it to a standard though because it’s too diffcult to reach that standard that’s my point.

If all refs in league one retired tomorrow and a whole new team took over the same issues and problems would still be there.
 
They will not do it to a standard though because it’s too diffcult to reach that standard that’s my point.

If all refs in league one retired tomorrow and a whole new team took over the same issues and problems would still be there.
How can others reach this ‘standard’ then?

The issue was explained very well by a poster on this thread. If I performed below the standard in my job I’d expect to get pelters , warnings and if I still continued to fail I’d expect the bullet, for some bizarre reason these incompetent fuckers are untouchable.

You bang on about VAR time and time again, that’s been a fuckin great successs that!
 
How can others reach this ‘standard’ then?

The issue was explained very well by a poster on this thread. If I performed below the standard in my job I’d expect to get pelters , warnings and if I still continued to fail I’d expect the bullet, for some bizarre reason these incompetent fuckers are untouchable.

You bang on about VAR time and time again, that’s been a fuckin great successs that!

So if VAR is not the solution what do you think is?

The only reason I am for VAR is because don’t accept understandable mistakes from refs.

I am not exactly a VAR fan but what is clear as day is refs need help!
 
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They will not do it to a standard though because it’s too diffcult to reach that standard that’s my point.

If all refs in league one retired tomorrow and a whole new team took over the same issues and problems would still be there.

The biggest thing that would help the referees and prevent outcries like this is to simply have the referees miked up and explain their decisions. They need to be accountable for their actions and hold their hands up when they make mistakes.

Works perfectly well in Rugby.
 
The biggest thing that would help the referees and prevent outcries like this is to simply have the referees miked up and explain their decisions. They need to be accountable for their actions and hold their hands up when they make mistakes.

Works perfectly well in Rugby.

Well yeah, as long as they adopt the culture and mentality of Rugby and just except the decision and move on.

If they did accept the refs decision it could work but it’s a big if!

Also it would be lot easier for refs to hold their hands when they made mistakes ( which they make plenty)

If people were more sympathetic and realise mistakes will always happen and understand the difficulty of the job.
 
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How can others reach this ‘standard’ then?

The issue was explained very well by a poster on this thread. If I performed below the standard in my job I’d expect to get pelters , warnings and if I still continued to fail I’d expect the bullet, for some bizarre reason these incompetent fuckers are untouchable.

You bang on about VAR time and time again, that’s been a fuckin great successs that!

They don't 'fail', they just make mistakes, as other people do in their jobs every day. You and others probably just need to come to terms with this and adjust your expectations more accordingly.

If a referee was continuously shit, week in week out then there would be consequences, but I'd bet that you (or anyone else in here moaning) couldn't name a ref that falls into that category.
 
They don't 'fail', they just make mistakes, as other people do in their jobs every day. You and others probably just need to come to terms with this and adjust your expectations more accordingly.

If a referee was continuously shit, week in week out then there would be consequences, but I'd bet that you (or anyone else in here moaning) couldn't name a ref that falls into that category.
Considering I don’t watch referees week in week out then you’d be correct, what a stupid statement to make. :neutral:

Tell me, how many referees do you follow week in week out? I’d hazard a guess as to none. People have a right to moan as you put it, if a referee is shite then we’ll discuss his performance and call him shite, if a referee had a game where he performs to the required ‘standard’ then there’ll be no need to discuss him, that’s a good referee, someone who doesn’t get noticed for stupid personal mistakes.

I don’t need some wet behind the lugs kid telling me to adjust my expectations accordingly, I will continue to call out these incompetent fools when their ‘performance’ warrants it.

If you for one minute believe Tuesday nights referee was acceptable then maybe you should take up a different spectator sport, he was shite, backed up my the majority at the game, the majority watching on tele, the reporters at the game for both SAFC and Burton but not you, you thought he was decent, it seems some are far too easily pleased and accept below average as acceptable.
 
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Considering I don’t watch referees week in week out then you’d be correct, what a stupid statement to make. :neutral:

Tell me, how many referees do you follow week in week out? I’d hazard a guess as to none. People have a right to moan as you put it, if a referee is shite then we’ll discuss his performance and call him shite, if a referee had a game where he performs to the required ‘standard’ then there’ll be no need to discuss him, that’s a good referee, someone who doesn’t get noticed for stupid personal mistakes.

I don’t need some wet behind the lugs kid telling me to adjust my expectations accordingly, I will continue to call out these incompetent fools when their ‘performance’ warrants it.

Is it possible for you to actually engage in conversation without being abusive? The attempt at patronising isn't doing you any favours either.

In the end it's as I thought, you can't back up your claims that a referee 'continues to fail'.
 
Is it possible for you to actually engage in conversation without being abusive? The attempt at patronising isn't doing you any favours either.

In the end it's as I thought, you can't back up your claims that a referee 'continues to fail'.
Abuse?? You’ll need to point me in the direction of this abuse you mention.

Patronising, are you taking the piss? I think someone needs to look at themselves before labelling others.

Listen young’un, you obviously set your standards low, I don’t. You are in the minority with views, just accept that and move on, he was shite.

And whilst we are at it, stop quoting me and you won’t have to put up with the ‘abuse’ you whining fanny. It’s easy, just ignore me, you can’t though.
 
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Abuse?? You’ll need to point me in the direction of this abuse you mention.

Patronising, are you taking the piss? I think someone needs to look at themselves before labelling others.

Listen young’un, you obviously set your standards low, I don’t. You are in the minority with views, just accept that and move on, he was shite.

And whilst we are at it, stop quoting me and you won’t have to put up with the ‘abuse’ you whining fanny. It’s easy, just ignore me, you can’t though.

:lol: Okay, you're a WUM.
 
The biggest thing that would help the referees and prevent outcries like this is to simply have the referees miked up and explain their decisions. They need to be accountable for their actions and hold their hands up when they make mistakes.

Works perfectly well in Rugby.

They are accountable... to the FA and that's the way it has to be, not to you and me. It is the FA who have to be accountable and find the solution. As for Miking them up it might help you understand a decision but given most peoples' already entrenched attitude to referees I am not sure that it would. Interpreting the laws of the game is a very subjective exercise which gives rise to inconsistency most amongst many issues. Also, There are only 17 of them compared with 42 in cricket and a lot in rugby so more eventualities are covered in those games. Also the players in those sports tend to respect their sport more than the average pro-footballer.
 
No, no what’s this abuse you accuse me of?

I want to know what has upset you, don’t want you crying to the mods again.

You're absolutely bizarre. You had posts deleted yesterday because of their unnecessary abuse. Have you forgotten that already? Or did they never happen because they're no longer viewable?

You've now edited one of your posts to claim that I think the ref was decent. Yet again, like yesterday, you've just made this up.
 
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You're absolutely bizarre. You had posts deleted yesterday because of their unnecessary abuse. Have you forgotten that already? Or did they never happen because they're no longer viewable?
You’ve accused me of abusing you this evening, now show me this abuse or apologise for getting it wrong, this isn’t difficult, if I abused you point me to it.

The reason I had posts deleted is because you went bitching to your mate, if you weren’t so easily offended they’d still be there. Anyway, this is a different day and you’ve accused me of abusing you, can you point me in the direction of this as I don’t want to keep on upsetting you.
 
You’ve accused me of abusing you this evening, now show me this abuse or apologise for getting it wrong, this isn’t difficult, if I abused you point me to it.

The reason I had posts deleted is because you went bitching to your mate, if you weren’t so easily offended they’d still be there. Anyway, this is a different day and you’ve accused me of abusing you, can you point me in the direction of this as I don’t want to keep on upsetting you.

In the last half hour alone you've called me a 'whining fanny', 'stupid', 'wet behind the lugs kid'. All for no reason at all. Can you not see this? Whether someone gets offended easily isn't the point. It's abusive, patronising, and uncalled for. And as I say that's before we discuss the posts that have already been deleted.

Why should I just ignore someone who is abusing me? Is that how you think it should work?
 
In the last half hour alone you've called me a 'whining fanny', 'stupid', 'wet behind the lugs kid'. All for no reason at all. Can you not see this? Whether someone gets offended easily isn't the point. It's abusive, patronising, and uncalled for. And as I say that's before we discuss the posts that have already been deleted.

Why should I just ignore someone who is abusing me? Is that how you think it should work?
Abuse? Those are facts man, you are everything I’ve posted and more.

Listen, do me a favour and just ignore me, why would you want to get involved with someone who abuses you?

You’re someone who gets themselves all upset at a few words on a screen, stick to posting on your Facebook account with likeminded people, leave the people who are nasty to you alone. Make sure you don’t ‘abuse’ anyone on here or I’ll be calling you a hypocrite too.

What a shambles you are.
 
Abuse? Those are facts man, you are everything I’ve posted and more.

Listen, do me a favour and just ignore me, why would you want to get involved with someone who abuses you?

You’re someone who gets themselves all upset at a few words on a screen, stick to posting on your Facebook account with likeminded people, leave the people who are nasty to you alone. Make sure you don’t ‘abuse’ anyone on here or I’ll be calling you a hypocrite too.

What a shambles you are.

Facebook? :lol: That's always a good one. Post something random about Facebook/Twitter to try and weaken your opponent's stance. Here Ziggy, stick to FIFA 19 mate, where you've bought Ronaldo and Messi and win every game!

Your one-upmanship is admirable, I'll give you that.
 
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