Red card?


I don't know how a keeper punching someone in the face isn't a red card. I understand their hands are a playable part but you're not allowed high tackles when you're outfield for player safety.
 
Which one were you in that picture then?
The keeper. Clearly.
He's run in from 8 yards away, and gone fists forward horizontally into a ruck of players at chest/head height. It's nothing like a goalkeeper's natural punch, which is usually over player's heads. He's totally cocked it up. He's endangering his teammates as much as Cirkin. Under the laws if a foul is committed (which you admit it is) which is reckless, uses excessive force, and endangers an opponent, it should be penalised as serious foul play, resulting ina red card. In what respect is the keeper's challenge not all of those things?
I don’t think it’s reckless or excessive force so I’m at YC and Penalty if it doesn’t go in.
 
I think it was a red, having watched replays. It's late and dangerous, so, by the letter of the law is a red. If an outfield player does that and kicks an opponent in the leg, they're going to get sent off. At the time, I didn't see a thing and had no idea what had gone on. I'm not sure that either of the ref or lino had a clue as to what had happened, along with at least 99% of the people in the ground, so I can see why it wasn't given.
Aye, I dont think anyone is blaming the officials who only saw it once in real time. It happened so fast with lots of bodies in the way & we scored from it.

What amazes me though is some people still dont think running & jumping towards someone who is running & jumping in your direction, and punching them square in the face & knocking them out is neither using excessive force, brutality or endangering the other player. There must be some proper hard bastards in this thread with chins like granite.
 
You could say exactly the same thing about a player going to head a ball and knocking someone out. It’s not a requirement to head the ball in as much as punching isn’t for a goalkeeper. Cahill ended Mason’s career. Luiz put Jiminez into intensive care. Both of them missed the ball, I don’t remember anyone calling for either of them to be red carded.

There’s a clear law against a high boot. Instead of using your boot you can use your head or upper body. A keeper can use his hands at any height. If Mane had gone with his head, and had the same result, he would not have been sent off. This Red Card was also massively debated and condemned at the time.


But Keepers are allowed to Punch it’s part of the game, and in this case the pundits were calling out for a red card.
Penalty, Yellow Card and caused a debate about whether it should have been a straight red for dangerous play and excessive force.

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Yes. That’s what I am saying.

The way he went about it is against the laws of the game, it didn’t just threaten injury it sparked him out.

Playing in a dangerous manner is any action that, while trying to play the ball, threatens injury to someone (including the player themself) and includes preventing a nearby opponent from playing the ball for fear of injury.
 
It's a no from me. Brave by Cirkin, a bit shit by their keeper, but never a red. It was an accident.

Their manager needs to have a word with himself.

1 - There's no way that was a pen. He's went down far too easily and after watching the full match back, Rowett should be able to see that.
2 - Comparing our "on shot" target to their "total shot" count it embarrassing. They had exactly one more shot on target than we did. Mind, he'd probably describe it as double :oops:
 

But Keepers are allowed to Punch it’s part of the game, and in this case the pundits were calling out for a red card.
Penalty, Yellow Card and caused a debate about whether it should have been a straight red for dangerous play and excessive force.

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So should we outlaw punching? Excessive is doing something over the top, like trying to smash someone like O’Nien or going in studs up, as there’s no need to do either.
 
Din't be fuckin' daft man.

^Complete and utter fanny.^
I am all for sporting violence. I love watching boxing and MMA. There is skill in that.

However, the changes to football in making it less aggressive have been for the better over the last 30 years. It’s safer for the players and it allows technical players to showcase their ability.
 
So should we outlaw punching? Excessive is doing something over the top, like trying to smash someone like O’Nien or going in studs up, as there’s no need to do either.

I wouldnt go that far. In the same way I wouldnt outlaw tackling. Like tackling though, if punching is mistimed, uses excessive force & endangers an opponent it should be a red card.
 
I am all for sporting violence. I love watching boxing and MMA. There is skill in that.

However, the changes to football in making it less aggressive have been for the better over the last 30 years. It’s safer for the players and it allows technical players to showcase their ability.
Is the keeper just supposed to let him head the ball unchallenged?


It's an unfortunate mishap. It happens.

Folk on here would have the game done away with.
 
Or if I go for a header, the other player gets to the ball first, and I nut him in the jaw with such force he's unconscious. I think that would be a red.
It's common to see a player groggy after a clash of heads. Should it be a red card for the man who didn't get the ball? I can't recall ever seeing one like that - so I think they would need to change the law. It's accepted that trying to head (or punch, for a goalkeeper) in the normal way - ie. hard - doesn't count as "excessive force" or "reckless" inthe same way as a leaping high challenge does.
 

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