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Did Loris just punch Rodri in the face?![]()
Did anyone think that it was a red card as it happened yesterday?
Did anyone think that it was a red card as it happened yesterday?
Or has it come about from the still image?
So not violent. I only saw one replay but it looked like it might have been deliberate.More of a slap with his other hand after he played the ball with the other. Nothing like what happened yesterday.
So not violent. I only saw one replay but it looked like it might have been deliberate.
Yesterday was shocking and should have been a red, I agree.No. World of difference to yesterday where the keeper ran 8 yards and went fists horizontal at chest height into a melee.
Perhaps someone can clarify the difference between an outfield player getting a red card for mistiming a tackle and injuring someone, compared to a goalkeeper mistiming a punch and hitting someone in the head.
Intent has got nothing to do with it as far as I'm aware.
Not for me. Heās trying to punch the ball away, as heās entitled to do, and Cirkin gets there ahead of him. Itās in the same category as a clash of heads for me.
Should a clash of heads be a red card? That can be really really dangerous.
If an outfield player went up for a header, was late and clashed heads would he be sent off?
Goalkeepers are legally allowed to punch the ball and therefore it's the equivalent of an outfield player attempting to head it imo.
You could say exactly the same thing about a player going to head a ball and knocking someone out. Itās not a requirement to head the ball in as much as punching isnāt for a goalkeeper. Cahill ended Masonās career. Luiz put Jiminez into intensive care. Both of them missed the ball, I donāt remember anyone calling for either of them to be red carded.There isn't/shouldn't be a difference.
But that means a keeper could purposely go to punch a player and get away with it. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Keepers don't have to punch the ball, it's not a requirement. If they choose to do so then they run the risk of injuring a player, yesterday was bad, it could have been a hell of a lot worse. If keepers miss the ball and hit a player that's on them and should be a foul and red card depending on how severe it is.
We ended up losing Cirkin yesterday and he won't be available for a few games now where as the Millwall keeper is free to play next game.
Thereās a clear law against a high boot. Instead of using your boot you can use your head or upper body. A keeper can use his hands at any height. If Mane had gone with his head, and had the same result, he would not have been sent off. This Red Card was also massively debated and condemned at the time.Players are allowed to kick it but are penalised if they attempt to kick the ball in a dangerous manner.
This was a red card even though Mane is legally allowed to kick a ball.
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Exactly mate. Iād like those saying itās a red to say what the keeper should do. Head it away? Anyone that says āleave itā has clearly never played a game let alone played in goal. People hammer Patto for not coming for crosses but want red cards for keepers coming and being beaten by 0.1 seconds.If an outfield player went up for a header, was late and clashed heads would he be sent off?
Goalkeepers are legally allowed to punch the ball and therefore it's the equivalent of an outfield player attempting to head it imo.
You must be one of them that wants heading banned. Any contested header is potentially dangerous with the ball impact or clash of heads. Are we going to tell keepers they canāt command their area and punch the ball but must stay on their line as if they get it wrong theyāre off. HeIf you go for the ball but get there late and take out the opposing player itās a foul.
If you do that recklessly or dangerously or with excessive force then it should be a card.
Why should that apply only if you lead with your feet, and not if you lead with your fist or head?
You could say exactly the same thing about a player going to head a ball and knocking someone out. Itās not a requirement to head the ball in as much as punching isnāt for a goalkeeper. Cahill ended Masonās career. Luiz put Jiminez into intensive care. Both of them missed the ball, I donāt remember anyone calling for either of them to be red carded.
Thereās a clear law against a high boot. Instead of using your boot you can use your head or upper body. A keeper can use his hands at any height. If Mane had gone with his head, and had the same result, he would not have been sent off. This Red Card was also massively debated and condemned at the time.
So you think goalkeepers should be banned from punching the ball?How can you say that? The ball was gone and he punched him in the jaw!
I think closed fist clearances like that should be banned. It was a definite red for me.
It never happens. Itās 100% a foul and a Yellow Card. But Red Card, think weāre going too much off the outcome. Which is a bad way to go imo.But going up to challenge for a header seems natural. A keeper flying full pelt through the air with their fist doesn't, it's dangerous if it connects. Of course it depends on the scenario, but what happened yesterday was totally OTT, it was mistimed and could have caused serious injury.
If someone flew into a header and completely missed the ball but smashed into a players head I imagine the ref would have to seriously consider if it was a serious foul or not but it rarely happens, I can't remember an incident like it.
It never happens. Itās 100% a foul and a Yellow Card. But Red Card, think weāre going too much off the outcome. Which is a bad way to go imo.
Ok then: if the keeper can get to the ball first then they should catch it or punch it, and if they can't get to it first then they have options but none of them are punching people in the face.Iād like those saying itās a red to say what the keeper should do. Head it away?
It's easy to pretend there are only two options isn't it. Means you don't really need to think that hard.You must be one of them that wants heading banned.
No, the keeper was right to try and punch it, no-one is disputing that, but he got his timing wrong and punched a player in the face.Exactly mate. Iād like those saying itās a red to say what the keeper should do. Head it away? Anyone that says āleave itā has clearly never played a game let alone played in goal. People hammer Patto for not coming for crosses but want red cards for keepers coming and being beaten by 0.1 seconds.
You must be one of them that wants heading banned. Any contested header is potentially dangerous with the ball impact or clash of heads. Are we going to tell keepers they canāt command their area and punch the ball but must stay on their line as if they get it wrong theyāre off. He