RAWA & Methven Minutes


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That's what I got from him mate, you did say you asked A question I also heard it was asked again and again, I also said, and you agreed there was nothing of real interest or disaster in the minutes, is that correct ? From what I understand he said we did not understand the non disclosure arrangement or its content, and he could and would not comment on it, and us northerners were not up to speed understanding it's content, or those in the meeting were not, is that correct?.
If I am wrong I will hold my hands up and say I was wrong.
At the end of the day he paid for his comments by leaving. And for more than 1 reason it is.his loss.
I reckon hes also still around the club after that statement today.

Pr move to say hes gone?
 
I have with Ghandi Floss, but it was at Doncaster, I can't remember word for word

No one's asking you to recite it verbatim but by reading them you would usually then have a good understanding of them. Especially when you are trying to get your point across about a specific subject.
 
That's what I got from him mate, you did say you asked A question I also heard it was asked again and again, I also said, and you agreed there was nothing of real interest or disaster in the minutes, is that correct ? From what I understand he said we did not understand the non disclosure arrangement or its content, and he could and would not comment on it, and us northerners were not up to speed understanding it's content, or those in the meeting were not, is that correct?.
If I am wrong I will hold my hands up and say I was wrong.
At the end of the day he paid for his comments by leaving. And for more than 1 reason it is.his loss.

It certainly wasn’t asked again and again, and barely any questions were asked before he came out with some of his injudicious comments about the knowledge of our fans, and also about us being difficult towards owners/managers/etc... No one pushed him on the Non-Disclosure side of things, as no one there was stupid enough not to understand what it means.
There was definitely nothing majorly note worthy said, and he’s obviously paid for it by leaving the role.
I don’t think any fans should be adding to the narrative that RAWA are out to get them, they’re just normal lads from Sunderland who are trying to do what they think is the right thing.

EDIT. Again, nothing against you mate, I’ll just comment if I see something I know to be untruthful, no matter who posts it.
 
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I reckon hes also still around the club after that statement today.

Pr move to say hes gone?
Correct mate
It certainly wasn’t asked again and again, and barely any questions were asked before he came out with some of his injudicious comments about the knowledge of our fans, and also about us being difficult towards owners/managers/etc... No one pushed him on the Non-Disclosure side of things, as no one there was stupid enough not to understand what it means.
There was definitely nothing majorly note worthy said, and he’s obviously paid for it by leaving the role.
I don’t think any fans should be adding to the narrative that RAWA are out to get them, they’re just normal lads from Sunderland who are trying to do what they think is the right thing.
So after we talked on the bus, do you still believe the RAWA speak for the many or just for the RAWA ?
Some think it was uncalled for and has caused more harm than good, your view please
 
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Divnt ban me then!

This was from one of the minutes of meetings I seen from a branch member, roughly a few weeks before Xmas. I’m not sure if it was the one Methven was rumoured to have took the strop. Anyway, that was one of his quotes along with that our fans put a negative spin on things and turn it childlike, which has an effect on future investment. He also went on to say that there is a significant problem with Sunderland fans, and we are known in the game to be an issue and it isn’t attractive to future investors. He needs the help to tackle the “Sunderland disease”

Holy Moly
 
Typical replies from people who appear to be of low intelligence and cannot string sentences together unless they are showing their ignorance, they should remember the saying" It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt". I expect they are off to schoo; now
Sound like Charlie
 
Correct mate

So after we talked on the bus, do you still believe the RAWA speak for the many or just for the RAWA ?
Some think it was uncalled for and has caused more harm than good, your view please

I strongly believe the lads who started RAWA are in it for the right reasons, and care about what they can do for the fans, not themselves. No personal gains for the work put in.
From a personal point of view, I probably would’ve voted more for a ‘stand up or sell up’ approach. But from the lack of belief in himself Donald has shown, he’s clearly showing he’s not got the backbone to lead our wonderful club from the front.
 
It didn't stop them investing did it? But I do believe they were incredibly naive when they arrived and underestimated the passion that we have for the club.

We can be negative, but that "negative spin" is just really something I see online and by a relatively small percentage of the supporters. I think on the whole the fans are incredibly supportive - are we disgruntled and unhappy about being in the "3rd Division" and at the lowest point in our 100+ year history - of course we are. But if things are going well you won't find a better bunch anywhere!

I would like to think we have a great reputation for when things are going badly ‘things can only get better’ was only a few years ago, who can forget how we supported the club in relegation in 77, 91, 97, at the Wembley before last season in the face of adversity we have been the most humble of fans. The sheer number that fans attending matches.
Yes there are some cynical vocal miserable sods who drain the positivity from the team and other supporters(the original mood hoovers) but on the whole the fans remain the greatest asset.
Methven blames the fans as a deflection tool, much like Bruce. Truth is fans are being treated with contempt and a lack of respect. These guys thought they could bullshit the fans and they would accept it. They called that very badly, but will now blame the fans for everything which is why I did not agree with what I think was a naive action by the supporters groups. It was a no win, they were looking to sell anyway, but have now given them the excuse to remove any moral obligations.
I also think that if we were going to protest it should have been to Short, he put us here. Attacking SD and co at every opportunity seems bizarre and we have only done because he has no money. If he was a multi billionaire we would not. have. So yes some fans were unfair and acted unreasonable but that should have been insignificant to them. There was a much bigger picture
 
I reckon hes also still around the club after that statement today.

Pr move to say hes gone?

If the club's sold on the quiet he's gone. If it's leaked left, right and centre throughout the process, he's still here.
I would like to think we have a great reputation for when things are going badly ‘things can only get better’ was only a few years ago, who can forget how we supported the club in relegation in 77, 91, 97, at the Wembley before last season in the face of adversity we have been the most humble of fans. The sheer number that fans attending matches.
Yes there are some cynical vocal miserable sods who drain the positivity from the team and other supporters(the original mood hoovers) but on the whole the fans remain the greatest asset.
Methven blames the fans as a deflection tool, much like Bruce. Truth is fans are being treated with contempt and a lack of respect. These guys thought they could bullshit the fans and they would accept it. They called that very badly, but will now blame the fans for everything which is why I did not agree with what I think was a naive action by the supporters groups. It was a no win, they were looking to sell anyway, but have now given them the excuse to remove any moral obligations.
I also think that if we were going to protest it should have been to Short, he put us here. Attacking SD and co at every opportunity seems bizarre and we have only done because he has no money. If he was a multi billionaire we would not. have. So yes some fans were unfair and acted unreasonable but that should have been insignificant to them. There was a much bigger picture

I agree with a lot of this. And in hindsight I agree about Short. I do however feel like a lack of protest against Shortx and what subsequently occurred, may well be a protagonist for protests now. IE Look what happened when we let Short get away with it. We can't let thay happen again.
 
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That’s utter bullshit. It was me who asked the financial question only once, before he came out with the comments about northerners not understanding investment/business.
I told you this myself.
Not sure what you are trying to gain by making things up, and shitstirring, mate?
Berb with yet another own goal

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