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He hasnt answered my question yet on whether he is accusing clubs like SAFC of institutionalised racism.Bad eggs!
Is it? If somebody is just too lazy to try, that isn't racism, it's just somebody being rewarded for going out and trying, and somebody else not being rewarded for sitting on his or her arse.This just avoids the point lol
Pretty much yes. Maybe not at individual clubs, but across football there is.Using your indignation then what you are clearly saying is that there is institutionalised racism in football clubs.
Is this what you are saying?
Exactly. The question to be asked of black footballers is whether they are bothered about becoming managers. The answer to that question may be quite surprising.Do these people really think that every football club/owner are racist ? To imply that just becuse of your colour of your skin you won't get a job in football is very wrong and if I was an owner of a club I would really take umbrage with it.
And your evidence for this is what?Pretty much yes. Maybe not at individual clubs, but across football there is.
See also homophobia
2014 and it's still white people getting the blame for anything bad happening to black people. Utter bullshit.
The lack of managers in management positions. Maybe some don't want to manage, equally Hansen didn'tExactly. The question to be asked of black footballers is whether they are bothered about becoming managers. The answer to that question may be quite surprising.
And your evidence for this is what?
Is that your opinion or based on fact?That of course fails to consider the number of black players discouraged from even trying
The proportion of black players is far higher than those trying to coach
White people fault obviously. We keep forcing them to have kids they can't afford. Surely it's not just white people who can build wells and sew mosquito nets.Go to Africa, you will be sick.
Do a count ffsIs that your opinion or based on fact?
If you went to Margaret Byrne and Ellis Short and accused them of being racist because they had not appointed a black manager you would be on extremely dodgy ground and I'm sure they would point blank deny the accusation. In fact I'm sure they would be offended.The lack of managers in management positions. Maybe some don't want to manage, equally Hansen didn't
You said people are "discouraged" from coaching, is that your opinion or based on fact?Do a count ffs
Aye Walcott, Lennon, Wright Phillips, Gibbs, Chamberlain are all massive physical specimens.
And Bryan Robson, Steve Bruce and Tony Adams are highly intelligent men, overcoming their physical shortcomings.
A very sweeping generalisation? You think?!
I'm not accusing anyone.If you went to Margaret Byrne and Ellis Short and accused them of being racist because they had not appointed a black manager you would be on extremely dodgy ground and I'm sure they would point blank deny the accusation. In fact I'm sure they would be offended.
If there are hundreds of black coaches at say youth level then people may have a point but do we know how many coaches there is at that level?
I'll say again - maybe they are just not interested in becoming football managers.
What is a likely career path for a black player ending a career in the lower divisions? Do you and omega think they are aspiring to get into macdonalds or become a bricky?You said people are "discouraged" from coaching, is that your opinion or based on fact?
What stats?I'm not accusing anyone.
The fact is that there are a handful of black managers, now and in the past.
The cause of this is? Probably (note I said probably), lack of opportunity (either at the top level of lower level) or perception of lack of opportunity
Unfortunately the stats don't lie.
"They are not interested" is a bit insulting as well. They don't all have the same opinion you know?