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They're a different colour an'all mate..
Yeah but biologically we're the same
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They're a different colour an'all mate..
That of course fails to consider the number of black players discouraged from even tryingMartin Samuel from the Daily Mail done a bit of work on this about 12 months back. I can't remember the figures now, but having two managers was a correct representation of how many black coaches were going for the top coaching badges at the time. To make this work in the longterm, maybe they should start at the grassroots level and promote more ethnic minorities into coaching for the bottom up then in a few years you will see more coaches being qualified enough to go for the top jobs. Just a thought like.
That is a good point, and one that I perhaps should have more sympathy with than I do, but I tend to take the view that football management is one of the most highly pressurised, and unstable jobs in the world. You are affected by loads of things, interfering chairmen/women, agents, bad refereeing decisions, imbalance of finances between your club and your competitors, injuries etc etc, and are likely to be sacked within 18 months or so. If you are the type of person to give up and say "it's all to difficult, I'm not even going to try" then you aren't going to be a successful manager anywayThat of course fails to consider the number of black players discouraged from even trying
The proportion of black players is far higher than those trying to coach
Start at the bottom and work your way up, make people/clubs keen to employ you for your ability not because of who or what you are.So how do they prove they are good enough if they don't get the job?
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I respect your view.That is a good point, and one that I perhaps should have more sympathy with than I do, but I tend to take the view that football management is one of the most highly pressurised, and unstable jobs in the world. You are affected by loads of things, interfering chairmen/women, agents, bad refereeing decisions, imbalance of finances between your club and your competitors, injuries etc etc, and are likely to be sacked within 18 months or so. If you are the type of person to give up and say "it's all to difficult, I'm not even going to try" then you aren't going to be a successful manager anyway
It's a very simplistic view. If you think there's no job for you you aren't going to bust a gut trying to get qualified for itThat is a good point, and one that I perhaps should have more sympathy with than I do, but I tend to take the view that football management is one of the most highly pressurised, and unstable jobs in the world. You are affected by loads of things, interfering chairmen/women, agents, bad refereeing decisions, imbalance of finances between your club and your competitors, injuries etc etc, and are likely to be sacked within 18 months or so. If you are the type of person to give up and say "it's all to difficult, I'm not even going to try" then you aren't going to be a successful manager anyway
That is very true as wellI respect your view.
But I tend to view it as a pampered environment, where you get paid a fortune (at the top level) to watch a bunch of arrogant arseholes kick a football. And whether you succeed or fail, you get paid
I agree, but if you're interviewing for a management job, who is going to impress you more, the guy who has busted a gut to get the qualifications and experience he needs, or the guy who has sat back and said "there's no point"? Regardless of their colour, you're surely going to be more impressed with the first guy.It's a very simplistic view. If you think there's no job for you you aren't going to bust a gut trying to get qualified for it
The black guy wouldn't be thereThat is very true as well
I agree, but if you're interviewing for a management job, who is going to impress you more, the guy who has busted a gut to get the qualifications and experience he needs, or the guy who has sat back and said "there's no point"? Regardless of their colour, you're surely going to be more impressed with the first guy.
Back to 70's....'coloured "
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f***ing hellWho said that black footballers wanted to become managers? Maybe they arent interested in such an unstable job. Fair play to them if they arent interested.
I did say regardless of colour.The black guy wouldn't be there![]()
This just avoids the point lolI did say regardless of colour.
Fair question to ask. Has anyone asked them if they want to become managers? Maybe they arent interested.f***ing hell
How come Alan Pardew was sacked for failure at West Ham, then sacked for relegating Charlton (and taking them to the bottom of the Championship), then unable to get Southampton promoted from the third division (even though they had Rickie Lambert, Jose Fonte, Morga Schneiderlin, Adam Lallana in the side), then his next job is in the Premier League?
All of them? They aren't a homogenous body you know?Fair question to ask. Has anyone asked them if they want to become managers? Maybe they arent interested.
you're assuming that they want to go into such a job. Maybe they dont.
Using your indignation then what you are clearly saying is that there is institutionalised racism in football clubs.All of them? They aren't a homogenous body you know?
This board ffs
Bad eggs!All of them? They aren't a homogenous body you know?
This board ffs