Question for the referees on here


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Re: Backpasses

I read a small article on it earlier somewhere.

'A goalkeeper handling the ball in his own penalty area is never a direct free-kick or penalty, whether from a backpass, catching a cross or making a save. (As we all very well know.) There is separate reference made to goalkeepers handling backpasses. The penalty for this infraction is an indirect free-kick to the opponents at the place of the infraction. However, Law 12 also specifically says that a red card cannot be given to a goalkeeper for denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity by handling the ball in his own penalty area.'


This is correct
 
Re: Backpasses

No it wasn't, a keeper can't be punished for deliberate handball in his own box according to the laws of the game.

He committed a technical foul, same as offside.

Look up the reasons that the back pass rule was brought in, this scenario was not one of them.

I know the rule.

But I'm challenging them. I think they should change.

Obviously rules are rules and the ref should have implemented them yesterday (questionable whether he did with the yellow card) - however at the point he catches the ball he is deliberately breaking the rules of the game just like a defender on the line catching the ball. Therefore for me next season this rule needs fixing.
 
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I know the rule.

But I'm challenging them. I think they should change.

Obviously rules are rules and the ref should have implemented them yesterday (questionable whether he did with the yellow card) - however at the point he catches the ball he is deliberately breaking the rules of the game just like a defender on the line catching the ball. Therefore for me next season this rule needs fixing.

Idiot
 
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Bollocks, the back pass rule was to stop time wasting, not for things like this.

And sending people off for handballs was to stop players cheating on the line.

Which is what Mig did :lol:

I think its crazy we basically cheated Everton out of a goal and we're pissing and whinging about a yellow card for it!

I understand the rules of the game and I know it would be impossible for the ref to give Mig a red given the rules. But, fuck me, the rule has to change. If a keeper deliberately handles it then he has to go.


Fuck off.

SMB disease this f***ing thread. Someone comes on and tries to make a different point in quite a polite way and you get f***ing wankers with these one liner shit comments.

Do you tell complete strangers they are idiots to their face when they're chatting football? Or just online where I cant put a glass through your face?
 
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And sending people off for handballs was to stop players cheating on the line.

Which is what Mig did :lol:

I think its crazy we basically cheated Everton out of a goal and we're pissing and whinging about a yellow card for it!

I understand the rules of the game and I know it would be impossible for the ref to give Mig a red given the rules. But, fuck me, the rule has to change. If a keeper deliberately handles it then he has to go.



Fuck off.

SMB disease this f***ing thread. Someone comes on and tries to make a different point in quite a polite way and you get f***ing wankers with these one liner shit comments.

Do you tell complete strangers they are idiots to their face when they're chatting football? Or just online where I cant put a glass through your face?

Wow.
 
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And sending people off for handballs was to stop players cheating on the line.

Which is what Mig did :lol:

I think its crazy we basically cheated Everton out of a goal and we're pissing and whinging about a yellow card for it!

I understand the rules of the game and I know it would be impossible for the ref to give Mig a red given the rules. But, fuck me, the rule has to change. If a keeper deliberately handles it then he has to go.
Cant argue with your assertion that you feel the rule needs to change but reflect on why the backpass rule was introduced.

IIRC this was after Italia 90 which was one of the most boring world cups in history when on average there must have been about 20 backpasses per game, particularly when the hosts were playing.

I'll be interested too see why Mignolet was booked because the club must surely have a case to have it rescinded.

This of course has absolutely nothing to do with "denying anyone a goal scoring opportunity" and TBH how can a goalie be booked for handling the ball inside his own penalty area? :confused:
 
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Am I wrong though?

If someone goes around calling strangers idiots how long will it take till someone cracks them?

Is it too much to ask to be polite even when that threat is removed?
Rise above it man. Threatening or even insinuating that you are going to glass someone is poor form.
 
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Cant argue with your assertion that you feel the rule needs to change but reflect on why the backpass rule was introduced.

IIRC this was after Italia 90 which was one of the most boring world cups in history when on average there must have been about 20 backpasses per game, particularly when the hosts were playing.

I'll be interested too see why Mignolet was booked because the club must surely have a case to have it rescinded.

This of course has absolutely nothing to do with "denying anyone a goal scoring opportunity" and TBH how can a goalie be booked for handling the ball inside his own penalty area? :confused:

I know what you mean. And I understand why the law was what it was. In 1990. But its now 2013 and we have had subsequent rule changes; for example straight red for denying a goalscoring opportunity.

Such red card fouls dont have to be dangerous or two footed. Just simple tug to cheat the opponents out of a better chance to score. For me the pass back thing should change in line with this sort of rule change.

I dont understand your last statement "how can a goalie be booked for handling the ball inside his own penalty area?

I mean couldnt we have equally said "how can a goalie be penalised for handling the ball inside his own penalty area?"....but we do penalise them. Once a pass back is made the box becomes irrelevant in what the goalkeeper can and can't do under the law.

Thats what I think anyway rightly or wrongly......

rise above it man. Threatening or even insinuating that you are going to glass someone is poor form.

ok.
 
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I dont understand your last statement "how can a goalie be booked for handling the ball inside his own penalty area?

I mean couldnt we have equally said "how can a goalie be penalised for handling the ball inside his own penalty area?"....but we do penalise them. Once a pass back is made the box becomes irrelevant in what the goalkeeper can and can't do under the law.
Difference between penalising and booking goalies. I might have this wrong but do goalies automatically get booked for handling a back pass inside their own area? As far as I'm aware they dont.

I'm comfortable with Mignolet being "penalised" but as I say not so comfortable with him being booked until someone tells me why.

Nee bother; just move on and forget about it. ;)
 
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