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Out of interest why was Mignolet not sent off for catching the backpass?

Clear (own) goalscoring opportunity that wasn't it?

or can you not get sent off for offences punished by indirect free kicks?
 
Out of interest why was Mignolet not sent off for catching the backpass?

Clear (own) goalscoring opportunity that wasn't it?

or can you not get sent off for offences punished by indirect free kicks?

Clear goalscoring opportunity and a deliberate handball. I'm sure I've seen similar incidents that have also lead to yellow cards so there must be something in the rules saying it's a booking.
 
Clear goalscoring opportunity and a deliberate handball. I'm sure I've seen similar incidents that have also lead to yellow cards so there must be something in the rules saying it's a booking.

It can't be handball he is a goalie and he was in the penalty area.
Anyway what is he supposed to do ? How did he know the ref was going to rule it a deliberate backpass.
 
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Goalkeepers can't 'handball' in the area, only concede an indirect freekick.
 
I couldnt believe it was a yellow card.
Why a yellow theres no foul hence a indirect freekick.
 
The rules state that a back-pass is a yellow card. Because this rule is clear, this rule overpowers the "denying a clear goalscoring opportunity" as it is open to interpretation.

Also, almost every back-pass is one that will go in.
 
  • The ball is kicked (played with the foot, not the knee, thigh, or shin) by a teammate of the goalkeeper,
  • This action is deemed to be deliberate and intentional, rather than a deflection or an miss-kick which is not intended for goalkeepers direction, by the referee
  • The goalkeeper handles the ball directly (no intervening touch of play of the ball by anyone else). Handling the ball involves retrieving the ball or making a save with one or both hands.


Could be argued that Seb didn't mean that.:lol:
 
Sending off offences (Law 12):

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A substitute or substituted player is cautioned if he commits any of the
following three offences:
• unsporting behaviour
• dissent by word or action
• delaying the restart of play
Sending-off offences
A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off if he commits any of the
following seven offences:
• serious foul play
• violent conduct
• spitting at an opponent or any other person
denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity
by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within
his own penalty area)

• denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving
towards the player’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a
penalty kick
• using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures
• receiving a second caution in the same matc
 
Out of interest why was Mignolet not sent off for catching the backpass?

Clear (own) goalscoring opportunity that wasn't it?

or can you not get sent off for offences punished by indirect free kicks?

I thought it would have been a red. But my mate who sits next to me has his referee's qualifications and says it can't be handball from a backpass.
 
I thought it could maybe have been worthy of a red if the ball was going in, as he illegally stopped the ball going in the net - as it was a back pass it's technically a deliberate hand ball.

Suppose if Phil Dowd couldn't be sure that the ball was going in ge couldn't give a red?
 
Sending off offences (Law 12):

35
A substitute or substituted player is cautioned if he commits any of the
following three offences:
• unsporting behaviour
• dissent by word or action
• delaying the restart of play
Sending-off offences
A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off if he commits any of the
following seven offences:
• serious foul play
• violent conduct
• spitting at an opponent or any other person
denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity
by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within
his own penalty area)

• denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving
towards the player’s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a
penalty kick
• using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures
• receiving a second caution in the same matc

Whipping the rulebook out at the first sign of an argument. What a way to kill a thread :lol:
 
The rules state that a back-pass is a yellow card. Because this rule is clear, this rule overpowers the "denying a clear goalscoring opportunity" as it is open to interpretation.

Also, almost every back-pass is one that will go in.

That explains that, then. Cheers.
 
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