Put a flat earthier into space

[Nukehasslefan]

Show one that can project the entire sky all at once.
Show one that can project and explain the path the sun would have to take across your lemon squeezer/bowl/flat but not flat plane.
Then tell us again how all that projector tech came into being naturally or otherwise.

It's all natural. We just grasp it and put it to use.

Gotta be a wind up right ??

@Nukehasslefan I made this for you, it's very simple but it doesn't matter which way the blue sphere spins you will see a sunrise and later on a sunset.

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You'll never see a sunset over any horizon (theoretical) line on a spinning globe.
That's what I'm saying.

Look at my diagram.

All have man made prepared presentations, produced animations and someone making sure it is presented well, in focus etc.

Is that what you are saying happens?

I asked how this could be achieved naturally with magic central earth crystals. I'm quite surprised you have chosen to deflect from my questions and didn't jump right in to explain the specifics of how Jupiter and nebula could work. If anything is going to win us over, that could be a key thing. It leaves us thinking it is bollocks and that you have no idea how it could possibly work and that might be an unreasonable impression for us to have.

I'm not after winning you over. You can take whatever you wish from what I've said.

Can you explain when and where you've seen this projector that you seem to think shows the moon and sun?

You seem to think that 99.9% of humanity is wrong and needs to show proof of accepted scientific knowledge.

What is 99.9% of humanity right about in terms of what they see of a spinning globe and a 93 million-mile sun and 248,000-mile moon and light year stars...and so on and so on?

Or were they simply told it to be and accept it as that?

 

[fyl2u]

You'll never see a sunset over any horizon (theoretical) line on a spinning globe.
That's what I'm saying.

Wow. This is a whole new level of stupid.

Just when we thought we'd hit rock bottom.

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

It's all natural. We just grasp it and put it to use.

With a big "Not Looking" to the first two...

You'll never see a sunset over any horizon (theoretical) line on a spinning globe.
That's what I'm saying.

Look at my diagram.

Your diagram showing an eye and a scope? The eye presumably only allowed to look directly at the crosshair? Why? Because if the eye were to look anywhere else it would see the sunset after all?

Wow. This is a whole new level of stupid.

Just when we thought we'd hit rock bottom.

Nah, we've been right here before, probably more than once.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

With a big "Not Looking" to the first two...

Your diagram showing an eye and a scope? The eye presumably only allowed to look directly at the crosshair? Why? Because if the eye were to look anywhere else it would see the sunset after all?

As I said with a supposed spinning globe. For you to see your sunset you would have to bend your neck forward or your eyes move down in order to level up your sight as you are tipped back over.
It makes no sense because the Earth does not spin and is not a globe we walk upon.

Everything in the sky moves and the ground stays still.

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

As I said with a supposed spinning globe. For you to see your sunset you would have to bend your neck forward or your eyes move down in order to level up your sight as you are tipped back over.
It makes no sense because the Earth does not spin and is not a globe we walk upon.

Everything in the sky moves and the ground stays still.

And as I said, we can and do bend our necks or swivel our eyes and we do see sunsets.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

And as I said, we can and do bend our necks or swivel our eyes and we do see sunsets.

No, we don't. Not when we watch the sun start to disappear.
We may do it when looking at a rising sun as it starts to come around and then over us.

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

No, we don't. Not when we watch the sun start to disappear.
We may do it when looking at a rising sun as it starts to come around and then over us.

the difference being?

 

[payne]

I wish he would publish a book with the proof of the real world and not the lies we've all been told. It would be an international best seller. Scientists could then use it to study what is actually going on instead of wasting their lives on subjects that don't actually exist or have any real world applications.

 

[BigPete]

I wish he would publish a book with the proof of the real world and not the lies we've all been told. It would be an international best seller. Scientists could then use it to study what is actually going on instead of wasting their lives on subjects that don't actually exist or have any real world applications.

Haway @Nukehasslefan write us a thesis on flat earth

 

[Nukehasslefan]

the difference being?

The difference being is the sun is moving away from you while you're stood on a stationary Earth.

Stood on a spinning globe tilting you back over will also offer your head and eyes an ever-changing angle from your initial horizontal standpoint.

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

The difference being is the sun is moving away from you while you're stood on a stationary Earth.

Stood on a spinning globe tilting you back over will also offer your head and eyes an ever-changing angle from your initial horizontal standpoint.

So there's a horizon in the morning but not later on? Got it.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

I wish he would publish a book with the proof of the real world and not the lies we've all been told. It would be an international best seller. Scientists could then use it to study what is actually going on instead of wasting their lives on subjects that don't actually exist or have any real world applications.

I'm fairly confident some will know what's what with an alternative to the global nonsense (in my opinion) we're fed.

So there's a horizon in the morning but not later on? Got it.

There's always a theoretical horizon as long as there's light back to your eyes.

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

There's always a theoretical horizon as long as there's light back to your eyes.

Over which the sun rises and sets.

For those with jointed necks and moveable eyes.

 

[payne]

I'm fairly confident some will know what's what with an alternative to the global nonsense (in my opinion) we're fed.

There's always a theoretical horizon as long as there's light back to your eyes.

How though if it's not testable and no calculations can be made. Surely there should be books on the stuff that any person could pick up and replicate mathematically.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Over which the sun rises and sets.

For those with jointed necks and moveable eyes.

Nope.

How though if it's not testable and no calculations can be made. Surely there should be books on the stuff that any person could pick up and replicate mathematically.

It's all about using your free mind to find alternates. Basically questioning the narratives and seeing where you get to before you either start to see things differently or give up and simply just go with the mainstream flow.
The latter is the major go-to choice for the vast majority, which is to be expected, given that we're creatures of habit.

 

[payne]

Nope.

It's all about using your free mind to find alternates. Basically questioning the narratives and seeing where you get to before you either start to see things differently or give up and simply just go with the mainstream flow.
The latter is the major go-to choice for the vast majority, which is to be expected, given that we're creatures of habit.

My mind is free. I question the narratives all the time. i.e. The narrative that the whole world is in on a massive conspiracy or just dumb is something that is quite frankly an insane thought. I want to see some evidence of your world so I can put the theory to scrutiny. Everything you've provided so far is just a musing. I want some facts from your dome world that I can test for myself. Evidence is not saying 'water is level' and putting a spirit level in a bath and I'm unable to perform the drop my eyes out my head one for obvious reasons.

 

[High Entropy]

You'll never see a sunset over any horizon (theoretical) line on a spinning globe.
That's what I'm saying.

You're absolutely wrong.

That's what I'm saying.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

My mind is free. I question the narratives all the time. i.e. The narrative that the whole world is in on a massive conspiracy or just dumb is something that is quite frankly an insane thought. I want to see some evidence of your world so I can put the theory to scrutiny.

Use your own mind and question it. No need to ask me for any proof as I can't offer you any proof...just theory in which you can either trigger your own senses or just cast it all off as utter nonsense from a looney. It's entirely up to you.

Everything you've provided so far is just a musing.

And that's all that should be taken from it because that's all I ever offered.
You can question the narrative or you can stick to it. The choice is entirely down to you, irrespective of what I offer.

I want some facts from your dome world that I can test for myself.

I can't offer you facts any more than you can offer me facts for a spinning globe and all the trimmings that go with it.

Evidence is not saying 'water is level' and putting a spirit level in a bath and I'm unable to perform the drop my eyes out my head one for obvious reasons.

It's how you wish to see things. If you think simple observations are not worthy then stick to what you originally accept and just treat me as the goon with the silly musings. I'm fine with whatever you choose.

You're absolutely wrong.

That's what I'm saying.

And you're obviously welcome to that thought. I just don't share it.

 

[High Entropy]

And you're obviously welcome to that thought. I just don't share it.

It's not an opinion, it's a fact.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

It's not an opinion.

It is to me. What you view it as is obviously your prerogative.