Put a flat earthier into space

[payne]

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[legend7]

Take a look around you at the things we can do on Earth. If you take some time out and look a bit deeper you can understand what's likely going on in this cell.
We can replicate a lot.
Put your mind to it. Do it for you, not for me.

I have and I can't think of an experiment or any logic that would make me say, yeah the centre must be made of crystals rather than say lava or light etc.
Hence I'm asking you how did you come to this answer, what led you to a crystal conclusion.
If you don't know and its just a guess that's fine just say that but you seem pretty certain?

 

[payne]

quality dome light photo here

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[DaveH]

Nope, just answering your firefly mindset.

This is what I mentioned about the stories.
Fantastical fiction placed on the fact shelf for those who wish to read it as fact and argue for it based on that story.

Which is fine.
There's lots of fantasy stuff out there. It's just a case of what suits each of us.

Why would they fake the research, build and lunch of this probe along with all the data coming back? How did they persuade the thousands of people involved to spin the lie?

And again, to what gain?

 

[taipeisafc]

Unless you're trying to suggest that the bigger ants, dogs, horses, lakes and hills are all producing light at the centre of your cell world, I don't know what point you think you're trying to make here, other than the fact that you can name five things that have small and large varieties.



What is this jibberish?



No, no they weren't. Because the rest of us aren't so easily confused by the difference between fact and fiction as you appear to be.



More jibberish.
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On another note for everyone else, this is cool...

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Another one lying to cover up the massive conspiracy

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I did an experiment today on site - we have a 55m structure on the South end of our site so I climbed up there and looked at the sea (Hangzhou Bay) it looks curved to me hence I have proven the earth is curved.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Eh

It’s you who has suggested it’s there not me

And why do you think all these scientists over the thousands of years have pushed a global earth if it’s incorrect?

You believe it, right?
Are you arguing for it?
Are all those on here arguing for it?
Do they know the truth or do they follow the narrative?
Hopefully that answers your question.

 

[payne]

Another one lying to cover up the massive conspiracy

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I did an experiment today on site - we have a 55m structure on the South end of our site so I climbed up there and looked at the sea (Hangzhou Bay) it looks curved to me hence I have proven the earth is curved.

he's not appealing to authority and finding out on his own. top bloke. Newcastle lad must agree.

You believe it, right?
Are you arguing for it?
Are all those on here arguing for it?
Do they know the truth or do they follow the narrative?
Hopefully that answers your question.

here a a load of questions to answer your question. I hope that answers your questions. classic Newcastle Fan.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Ok, I'm told they are planets, but I can also see them for myself.

You see them as what you're told they are.

Will move differently because they are so much further away! ie NOT reflections on a dome.

Yes they can be further away depending on where you're stood and where they move over and around that dome.
Just like your bright sun or moon...etc. Or even a plane and so on and so on.

There really is no need to keep bringing religion into this.

There is because it's based on a similar thing.

They are NOT the same thing.

No but the mindset is similar in terms of having faith in a system that manifests into a belief in the mind of those that follow that narrative.

Religious teaching may well be a better example of the 'schooling' or brainwashing you insist we all suffer, but you also then need to consider that lots of us are not religious.

As above.

We CAN look at what's presented and check it out for ourselves before we accept or reject it.

No you can't. Not with this stuff. You can look at the story and say it fits what you observe but it means nothing as a proof to you, yet you can accept it as that based on your faith in that schooled model.

And this differs from your method in what way? Oh yeah, observation, testing and experiments, all that boring, pointless stuff that you only need to bother with if you want the truth rather than your made-up nonsense.

I have to keep reiterating this. I don't offer my stuff for my model as factual. I'm not asking or trying to force anyone to follow my mindset.
People ask my questions and I answer. That's it.
Whether those answers to those questions suit or not is down to each individual to decide.

You were so certain, 100% certain, but now it's only a thought experiment.

Nope. I've never been certain on anything I've offered for my model.
Carry on saying it if it makes you feel better but you're getting nowhere doing it, unless it pacifies you to keep on doing it. If so, I say, fair enough...go for it for as long as you wish.

Sounds very much like backing away.

There's no backing away.
I'm one person up against many and I'm answering to the many. Not as easy as it appears.
You're just one person throwing your rock and you can rest after one throw. I have to keep catching or avoiding the rest.

I have and I can't think of an experiment or any logic that would make me say, yeah the centre must be made of crystals rather than say lava or light etc.

No problem.

Hence I'm asking you how did you come to this answer, what led you to a crystal conclusion.

Lots of stuff got me to this stage.

If you don't know and its just a guess that's fine just say that but you seem pretty certain?

Just treat it how you wish to. I'm ok with it.

Why would they fake the research, build and lunch of this probe along with all the data coming back?

Why do those in power do the things they do? Unless you think they don't tell lies...at all. If you don;t then I'm not going to get anywhere answering that question.

How did they persuade the thousands of people involved to spin the lie?

How does Hollywood persuade people to become involved in a lie.

And again, to what gain?

That depends on how you see your world and the people in it.

 

[DPTT]

You believe it, right?
Are you arguing for it?
Are all those on here arguing for it?
Do they know the truth or do they follow the narrative?
Hopefully that answers your question.

Think you have the words “narrative” and “science” mixed up matey

You need to open your mind and look for the facts and accept your “musings” are just that

Without showing any data to back yourself, the best place for your “musings” will be in the Fantasy section of the library.

 

[ned_werby]

You see them as what you're told they are.

Yes they can be further away depending on where you're stood and where they move over and around that dome.
Just like your bright sun or moon...etc. Or even a plane and so on and so on.

There is because it's based on a similar thing.

No but the mindset is similar in terms of having faith in a system that manifests into a belief in the mind of those that follow that narrative.


As above.

No you can't. Not with this stuff. You can look at the story and say it fits what you observe but it means nothing as a proof to you, yet you can accept it as that based on your faith in that schooled model.

I have to keep reiterating this. I don't offer my stuff for my model as factual. I'm not asking or trying to force anyone to follow my mindset.
People ask my questions and I answer. That's it.
Whether those answers to those questions suit or not is down to each individual to decide.


Nope. I've never been certain on anything I've offered for my model.
Carry on saying it if it makes you feel better but you're getting nowhere doing it, unless it pacifies you to keep on doing it. If so, I say, fair enough...go for it for as long as you wish.

There's no backing away.
I'm one person up against many and I'm answering to the many. Not as easy as it appears.
You're just one person throwing your rock and you can rest after one throw. I have to keep catching or avoiding the rest.


No problem.

Lots of stuff got me to this stage.

Just treat it how you wish to. I'm ok with it.

Why do those in power do the things they do? Unless you think they don't tell lies...at all. If you don;t then I'm not going to get anywhere answering that question.


How does Hollywood persuade people to become involved in a lie.

That depends on how you see your world and the people in it.

And there we have it, he has no evidence of anything which would contradict the 'global' earth, no evidence to support his claims of a 'flat' earth an no desire to consider anything other than his own belief system. Time to put this one to bed. He's nothing more than a CT.

 

[Nobby]

Nope. I've never been certain on anything I've offered for my model.

Apart from the earth is not a spinning globe, or are you backing off from that certainty too?

 

[payne]

And there we have it, he has no evidence of anything which would contradict the 'global' earth, no evidence to support his claims of a 'flat' earth an no desire to consider anything other than his own belief system. Time to put this one to bed. He's nothing more than a CT.

you mean he's the smartest man to have ever lived and the rest of humankind is akin to a worm compared to him

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Think you have the words “narrative” and “science” mixed up matey

Nope. A narrative can be a truth to follow as part of other truth's or even fiction.

You need to open your mind and look for the facts and accept your “musings” are just that

My musings are just that.
Looking for the facts is not easy if the reliance is solely on stories. It's about deciphering the truth from the fiction or the narrative.

Without showing any data to back yourself, the best place for your “musings” will be in the Fantasy section of the library.

Maybe .
The best place for the fiction of what you believe is on the correct shelf in the library, instead of being placed on the fact shelf by intention or mistake, depending on who places them..

And there we have it, he has no evidence of anything which would contradict the 'global' earth, no evidence to support his claims of a 'flat' earth an no desire to consider anything other than his own belief system. Time to put this one to bed. He's nothing more than a CT.

Water level.

Apart from the earth is not a spinning globe, or are you backing off from that certainty too?

No. I agree with you. Earth is absolutely not a spinning globe.

 

[payne]

Nope. A narrative can be a truth to follow as part of other truth's or even fiction.

My musings are just that.
Looking for the facts is not easy if the reliance is solely on stories. It's about deciphering the truth from the fiction or the narrative.


Maybe .
The best place for the fiction of what you believe is on the correct shelf in the library, instead of being placed on the fact shelf by intention or mistake, depending on who places them..

Water level.

Proper mystical speak from the guru again. The English language waxed lyrical.

 

[DPTT]

musings are just that.
Looking for the facts is not easy if the reliance is solely on stories. It's about deciphering the truth from the fiction or the narrative.

Stories which work if the earth was a globe

 

[What A Waster]

Nope. A narrative can be a truth to follow as part of other truth's or even fiction.

My musings are just that.
Looking for the facts is not easy if the reliance is solely on stories. It's about deciphering the truth from the fiction or the narrative.


Maybe .
The best place for the fiction of what you believe is on the correct shelf in the library, instead of being placed on the fact shelf by intention or mistake, depending on who places them..

Water level.

No. I agree with you. Earth is absolutely not a spinning globe.

No certainties offered though

 

[ned_werby]

Nope. A narrative can be a truth to follow as part of other truth's or even fiction.

My musings are just that.
Looking for the facts is not easy if the reliance is solely on stories. It's about deciphering the truth from the fiction or the narrative.


Maybe .
The best place for the fiction of what you believe is on the correct shelf in the library, instead of being placed on the fact shelf by intention or mistake, depending on who places them..

Water level.

No. I agree with you. Earth is absolutely not a spinning globe.

"Water level" is meaningless without a verifiable experiment. It's your "buzz phrase" but it's simply a lie.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Stories which work if the earth was a globe

In the story, yes.
Flash Gordon works, for the story.
Star trek works, for the story.
Star wars works, for the story.
Armageddon works, for the story.
Nanny McPhee works for the story.
Harry potter works for the story.


And so on.

 

[Nobby]

Earth is absolutely not a spinning globe.

And you have established this by looking at water level.

The degree of curvature on the scale you use would be fractions of a millimetre, but you have established it as a fact without using sensitive measuring equipment as you don't see the need.

Not the most robust proof

 

[Nukehasslefan]

No certainties offered though

Just water level against the globe.

"Water level" is meaningless without a verifiable experiment. It's your "buzz phrase" but it's simply a lie.

100% meaningful against a spinning globe.