Put a flat earthier into space

[Kevj]

Yes its easy to dismiss it all. No matter what. Fingers in ears, it's all lies.
The other day when i mentioned shining a torch around a mixing bowl. Straight away any rational mind would then go, so how can my central projector make a circle rather than an ellipse when it's low in the sky?
Not superbrain though. I'm not wrong about central projector light so I'll reinvent physics around that to explain it

It’s almost as if he had one theory which was challenged on the basis it doesn’t work in a holistic sense, then come up with a ‘logical’ counter argument and file that one away. This goes on until there’s a full repertoire of standard responses which get rolled out as 100% factual when challenged. They don’t need substantiation as the real world physics is wrong, therefore his alternative must be right.

 

[pinewaves1868]

I’ll jump in as others are resting.

But if the earth is spinning shouldn’t the water be “bunched up” at one end of the container?
It’s isn’t so = proof. Nar I forgot, gravity doesn’t exist. As you were. The new atmospheric pressure keeps it level.

Has anyone said where the centre of the disc is? I’d be interested in going to have a deeks but am I fuck doing any of me own “research”. Will GPS work? Mebees I’ll disappear up me own arsehole? Ever decreasing circles y knar.

And too late now, many posts ago, but shirley the “no gravity” version of atmospheric pressure needs gravity to work. And don’t call it “atmospheric” if it’s not a sphere cos “atmosphere” surrounds a “sphere”. Using the term accepts and validates a sphere.

How, Truman can you have a word with your mates on the high council (SOZ don’t know what their job title is. Mebees the fellers in the projection booth that shows the fillums of stars and that on the inside of the dome.) can we have more rainbows, not in support of anybody just because they’re physics as fuck. And they’re rings when seen from off-world. Doublers would be better cos then you see the reversal of order and ADB which is mint.
Thanks.

 

[Kevj]

Nah not doing it any more

It’s beyond frustrating that he has the gall to challenge on such basis terms when his ideas are unbelievably far fetched.

 

[BigPete]

I’ll jump in as others are resting.

But if the earth is spinning shouldn’t the water be “bunched up” at one end of the container?
It’s isn’t so = proof. Nar I forgot, gravity doesn’t exist. As you were. The new atmospheric pressure keeps it level.

Has anyone said where the centre of the disc is? I’d be interested in going to have a deeks but am I fuck doing any of me own “research”. Will GPS work? Mebees I’ll disappear up me own arsehole? Ever decreasing circles y knar.

And too late now, many posts ago, but shirley the “no gravity” version of atmospheric pressure needs gravity to work. And don’t call it “atmospheric” if it’s not a sphere cos “atmosphere” surrounds a “sphere”. Using the term accepts and validates a sphere.

How, Truman can you have a word with your mates on the high council (SOZ don’t know what their job title is. Mebees the fellers in the projection booth that shows the fillums of stars and that on the inside of the dome.) can we have more rainbows, not in support of anybody just because they’re physics as fuck. And they’re rings when seen from off-world. Doublers would be better cos then you see the reversal of order and ADB which is mint.
Thanks.

They are racist the ones in the projection booth.

Africans gagging for water and they keep pointing the carbon arc projector on them burning off all the rain and causing them to starve..

Horrible bastards

 

[What A Waster]

It’s almost as if he had one theory which was challenged on the basis it doesn’t work in a holistic sense, then come up with a ‘logical’ counter argument and file that one away. This goes on until there’s a full repertoire of standard responses which get rolled out as 100% factual when challenged. They don’t need substantiation as the real world physics is wrong, therefore his alternative must be right.

Yeah I said similar a while back.
Coming up with a legitimate question and thinking how the hell is that possible, fair enough.
But to then anchor everything else around that is crazy. "I was right on point one, water is flat, so now everything has to fit around that". No chance of being wrong initially, because to admit that requires more work and understanding.

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

Nothing if you think water and oceans can happily go about their way, as we see it but with your mindset that it's happening on a spinning globe when everything around you absolutely 100% tells you different.
I can't change that mindset. It's up to people to ask themselves those questions and see the nonsense for themselves.

The question was what magical force would make the water cascade off a globe? Your reply is not an answer, it's another dodge.
If you were able to pour water onto an earth-sized globe, what force would cause it to cascade off in the same manner as pouring water onto a balloon or your spinning tennis ball?

 

[pinewaves1868]

They are racist the ones in the projection booth.

Africans gagging for water and they keep pointing the carbon arc projector on them burning off all the rain and causing them to starve..

Horrible bastards

Sorry, I didn’t know this but ignorance is no excuse. I realize I speak from a position of entitlement. Must do better.

So Truman, the aliens who built the pyramids also make the dome?

 

[SAFCMark]

I've seen this thread on here for ages but only now decided to take a look.

Surely this @Nukehasslefan is on a wind-up?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

This whole appeal to authority thing is what makes me laugh. Like it's a water tight argument that disproves anything.

If you do not physically know the truth of something and you argue it as a truth then you are appealing to what you believe is the authority of that in order to argue it.
That does not make something untrue no more than it makes something true.
So, basically I'm using it as a fact based on that scenario. You can only agree with that out of honesty.

Heart surgeons learn from other's knowledge.

No issue.

A car mechanic learns from what others have done before him.

No issue.

We have years and years of kniwledge and understanding which is passed down.

Yep and much of it serves a purpose.
The issue comes down to what serves a purpose of factual info and what serves a purpose of stories of fiction. They can all serve a purpose for all or some.
You can revise and recite anything you choose to study. You can then go to a quiz or even mastermind and relay that back as questions are asked on what you studied.
You may get all questions correct.
What you studied may have been Harry Potter from start to present/finish.
Does it make you a genius? Does it make you a scientist? Does it make you more clever than someone who revised and recited another story?
But that's fiction, right?
Revise ancient history or go back to the writing of the dinosaurs and how they were wiped out by a big asteroid and so on and so on.
Does this make you a scientist or a genius or any more clever than the Harry Potter reciter?
Does it make you more clever than someone who simply observes nature and pieces bits and pieces?

Knowledge is the ability to soak up teachings, whether they're based on truth's or based on fiction or potentials/theories.
Those who choose to absorb one thing over another without knowing a truth are no wiser to a truth than the one not absorbing any of it.

Learning to cook something, you just follow a recipe. This is how it is done, this makes the meal.

And you can do it and see the results.

Nobody says I've never made a cake before so I'll just throw in some random ingredients and see what comes out.

But that's how cakes are made. It just comes down to particular cakes that have been tried and tested and we can all p[rove it to ourselves.

The distrust of anything taught is total paranoia.It's absurd.

I agree. But then again everything is not on the table.

But it only seems to be stuff that is hard to comprehend.

It depends on what you mean by, hard to comprehend. Go back to the stories above.

Imagine having to think how tiny and insignificant you are in the grand scheme of things...

We aren't tiny compared to ants or flies but we are compared to Earth or a giraffe or an elephant...etc.
As for significance. All bacteria has a significance. That's all we are.

you life time is the longest amount of time you can ever experience and the most important thing that happens to you, yet you're only one out 7 billion people on the planet and are here for about 80 years and the earth is billions of years old.

You have absolutely no idea how old this Earth is. The story told to you only offers you that knowledge as your potential truth.
You exist. You think. You do and you expire. That's it. In my opinion.

That can mess with your head a bit when you start thinking about it.

It can and it can make your thoughts on your worth become pointless. But it depends on how you want to view it.
Your value to this Earth is exactly the same as any other human being or insect or piece of matter...etc.

The need to wrest back some control occurs. Anything I don't understand is made up.

Anything you don;t understand you try to understand it if it interests you.
You'll never understand most things in life. Nor will I or anyone else.

I didn't succeed in school so I don't trust that shite.

What is succeeding in school?
Here's a question for anyone. Please jump- in to answer even if it's just this one question.

Question: Do you know of a loser at school who left school to become well off and look to have much more than you have even though you classed letters on certificates as your success?
Be totally honest, because I know lots.

University of life me, pal.

You are your own university of your own life. You're an open university.

Repeating stuff you've been told? Anybody can do that.

And we all do.

 

[BigPete]

Sorry, I didn’t know this but ignorance is no excuse. I realize I speak from a position of entitlement. Must do better.

So Truman, the aliens who built the pyramids also make the dome?

They were the slave labour couldn't risk going up themselves incase fell down.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

And to back that up, just claim the entire education system is repeating facts from a book. No working out, no research, no investigation, no experiments. All completely wrong.

Lots of schooling can set a person up in life to follow set out subjects and work related tasks. I have no issue with that.

Ah, like satellites?

Space satellites?
Do you know for sure?

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

I've seen this thread on here for ages but only now decided to take a look.

Surely this @Nukehasslefan is on a wind-up?

The whole thing swings from Idiot to WUM to funny as fuck to oh shit are we laughing at the special needs kid? and back to WUM, idiot, funny...etc

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Yes its easy to dismiss it all. No matter what. Fingers in ears, it's all lies.

And it's easy to simply just accept it all even though you cannot prove it.

The other day when i mentioned shining a torch around a mixing bowl. Straight away any rational mind would then go, so how can my central projector make a circle rather than an ellipse when it's low in the sky?
Not superbrain though. I'm not wrong about central projector light so I'll reinvent physics around that to explain it

Hard to answer using a small bowl and torch.

 

[payne]

And it's easy to simply just accept it all even though you cannot prove it.

Hard to answer using a small bowl and torch.

I was under the impression scale was only a problem when it go too big?

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

Revise ancient history or go back to the writing of the dinosaurs and how they were wiped out by a big asteroid and so on and so on.

Well known for their poetry the dinosaurs

 

[pinewaves1868]

Well known for their poetry the dinosaurs

T. Rex definitely had their moments of inspiration.

 

[DaveH]

I've seen this thread on here for ages but only now decided to take a look.

Surely this @Nukehasslefan is on a wind-up?

It appears that he is a paranoid moron. It is too much effort for a wind up. There are a couple of SMB wums who may have popped up on this thread with the odd one liner. This is a lot of repeated effort to make strangers thing you are stupid. I think it sadly has to be genuine.

Space satellites?
Do you know for sure?

Yes

 

[DPTT]

Sorry, I didn’t know this but ignorance is no excuse. I realize I speak from a position of entitlement. Must do better.

So Truman, the aliens who built the pyramids also make the dome?

No mate, the dome is alive with the sound of music/light (same thing) but I do think the aliens live in the gid big hole. Just my musing like so it has to be true, right

 

[Nukehasslefan]

So every map, printed or online, every globe, every atlas is a lie, and you know better?

I know Earth is not a spinning globe, so, if that map is based on a globe then I don;t accept it as realistic. Simple as that.
You accept it because...well...why not.

Even with the ability to scroll through aerial photography of the whole planet and find your own house or car, you still want to claim that?

Aerial photography. Planes do a decent job of it and once it's turned from CGI of a globe model, you then get to see the height your photography was at and the zoom in to a certain height above your chosen area.
No space satellites required.
What do you think your space satellites do...wait till the clouds disperse before zooming in?
Or do you think a plane below them is more ideal.
Think on it.

It's real. It's not reflections on a dome because there is no dome. Nor is it holographs.

In your opinion, which is absolutely fine by me.

The very fact that you can entertain this as a possibility shows how little you've looked at the sky and I'm presenting that as a fact and know it to be a fact.

That's all I can do, just like you. Look up at the sky.

Ok, day and night and the seasons as are observable all around the world could not happen as they do if the world was flat or in a cell.
Show how they could and shut us all down.

Already have.

Then there's stuff like actual testing which you reject because you know without doubt that it would disprove your whole theory.

You don't have any test that proves a spinning globe.
If you did then this thread would be over.
You certainly would not be arguing with a numpty idiot like myself if you had the facts...surely.

If someone checkmated you, you'd still say it depends how you look at it and rewrite the rules to suit.

Checkmate me and let's see how that pans out.

As above, your inability to understand celestial mechanics clearly shows. Your opinion is based on ignorance.

Tell me about celestial mechanics and how it works.
I know I know, I just wouldn't understand and you do....right?

Your thought that the Earth is not a spinning globe is constantly offered as factual.

That's because it is a fact that I stand by. Can you guess why? Surely you don't want me repeating again...right?

Your thought that water cannot stick to a spinning globe is constantly offered as factual.

Bingo.

But you refuse to test them or accept that anyone else could test them and find a different result.

Tested and proven to me. What you think of it is of no relevance to me.

No-one should be expected to follow nonsensical mainstream forced bull.

I agree but nobody should ever be bullied yet we see it day in and day out.

The issue is your definition of "absolute nonsensical mainstream forced bull" includes stuff that makes perfect sense to those who bother to think about it and becomes mainstream for a good reason.

That depends on what you're citing and what good reason is.

Plenty can show you proof, but no-one can do the seeing for you.

Like religion you mean?

Well given that the video was a list of ten challenges to flat earthers, the first hurdle is that you wont even watch the video. Watch it and see the ten challenges, then fail to meet every one. Mainstream books and indoctrination/schooling don't need to come into it, you just have to take the challenges which if you're this certain, should be simple matters.

If it means that much to you, why don't you offer up each question and see what transpires.The question was to explain the mechanics of day and night, the seasons and the star maps without a globe... and you claim to have already done so.

 

[RollingStone]

The whole thing swings from Idiot to WUM to funny as fuck to oh shit are we laughing at the special needs kid? and back to WUM, idiot, funny...etc

I do agree with him on one thing: nobody has to engage with him. The fundamental problem is that he has a belief and nothing more. Therefore trying to counter that with scientific explanation or even logic doesn't work. He obviously enjoys the 'debate' which I suppose we all do or we wouldn't entertain him. I think he's bat shit crazy but harmless.