Pride comes before a fall


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Even with that mate there’s no guarantees, Everton and West Ham spent some ridiculous money in the last 18 months and they’ve not done anything.

We could buy 4 class players and maybe one of them will be great and 3 will have problems, whether it be attitude, form or injuries. They could all be class but Jack Ross might be shite. You never know.
Clairvoyants mate.
 
He has a point though.

I know the rule us now that anyone even daring to question the Don is savaged by the forum members because they are more in touch with reality. We shall see.

There’s questioning the owners and then there’s actively revelling in people’s concerns etc.

You’re not more in touch with reality by choosing to have faith in the new owners.
 
Money to keep the club running should come from the owners or the banks and should have been in place when they bought the club.

Money to invest in players can come from additional investors but I can't see anyone wanting to invest £10M until the club shows signs that we are going in the right direction both on and off the field.
 
Decided to listen to the latest RR “love in” Podcast with SD last night. I was initially left feeling enthused and positive by what SD had to say and whilst I think he has genuine intentions but on reflection I can’t help but question a couple of things he said.

1) when asked about taking out short term loans instead of asking Juan Sartori to help out he rambled on about being to proud to go cap in hand to Juan at this stage. Well that’s all well and good but surely the well being and rebuilding of the club should come before SD saving face over what he is now claiming to be a “rushed” uncomprehensive due diligence?

2) SD said the reason the loans might be needed is partly due to the Alvarez court case. He went on to claim that Ellis Short had advised there was “no chance” we would lose the case so nothing to worry about. I’m sorry but surely with the money involved in losing the case any person would and should do more than take somebody else’s opinion prior to committing to buy the club, anything else is complete naivety at best. Slightly concerning considering he is trying to rebuild our train wreck of a club!

3) When talking about transfers and Juan Sartori SD stated that if he asked Juan for the funds to buy Jack Marriot he would probably stump up the cash but that’s not how he wants to do things. Surely the absolute priority at this stage of proceedings has to be to get this club promoted at the first time of asking? You don’t buy an investment property at a song that needs renovating and try to fix it up on a shoestring over a long period while your mate who invested with you has the funds to turn the property around quickly? This club in the Premiership is worth £150 - 200 million, £5 - 10 million spent now to guarantee a swift return to the Championship is surely money well spent, what is SD attempting to prove and why by adopting his approach?

Before people start banging on with “we spent money before look where it got us” spending money didnt get us to the 3rd division poor management did.

and

we would rather be self sufficient than reliant on a billionaire” I couldn’t give a damn how we achieve it I just want to see a team capable of challenging in the top half of the Premier League which is where this club should be!
Stop whinging and let him get on with rebuilding the club
 
Using the ground as collateral??? Fuck that.
That’s what he said not me, he’d sooner use the ground as collateral than ask our billionaire shareholder, that doesn’t sit comfortably with me hence the title of the thread “Pride comes before a fall”

Even with that mate there’s no guarantees, Everton and West Ham spent some ridiculous money in the last 18 months and they’ve not done anything.

We could buy 4 class players and maybe one of them will be great and 3 will have problems, whether it be attitude, form or injuries. They could all be class but Jack Ross might be shite. You never know.
So what you saying, see if the bloke the owners appointed, their choice can polish a turd and if he can they will throw a few bob his way?

Stop whinging and let him get on with rebuilding the club
Whinging, I’m merely asking questions RR should have during the podcast.
 
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That’s what he said not me, he’d sooner use the ground as collateral than ask our billionaire shareholder, that doesn’t sit comfortably with me hence the title of the thread “Pride comes before a fall”

Just a quick question mate, this £10million that you want Sartori to hoy in, you do realise that means the club would owe him £10million?

Or is he just to write it off as a generous donation?
 
That’s what he said not me, he’d sooner use the ground as collateral than ask our billionaire shareholder, that doesn’t sit comfortably with me hence the title of the thread “Pride comes before a fall”


So what you saying, see if the bloke the owners appointed, their choice can polish a turd and if he can they will throw a few bob his way?


Whinging, I’m merely asking questions RR should have during the podcast.
They don’t need to ask anything just let the bloke get on with his job
 
So what you saying, see if the bloke the owners appointed, their choice can polish a turd and if he can they will throw a few bob his way?

That’s one way to go about it.

Just stick to the budget! If we get the lads in that we’re chasing, we’ll have spent more than enough.

If Ross gets us promoted I imagine a solid championship budget will be given, but it’ll probably have to be funded by Sartori, at least partly.
 
While I agree spending chucking money about like its going out of fashion isn’t the answer. I think this new ownership needs to make a big statement signing like
 
Decided to listen to the latest RR “love in” Podcast with SD last night. I was initially left feeling enthused and positive by what SD had to say and whilst I think he has genuine intentions but on reflection I can’t help but question a couple of things he said.

1) when asked about taking out short term loans instead of asking Juan Sartori to help out he rambled on about being to proud to go cap in hand to Juan at this stage. Well that’s all well and good but surely the well being and rebuilding of the club should come before SD saving face over what he is now claiming to be a “rushed” uncomprehensive due diligence?

2) SD said the reason the loans might be needed is partly due to the Alvarez court case. He went on to claim that Ellis Short had advised there was “no chance” we would lose the case so nothing to worry about. I’m sorry but surely with the money involved in losing the case any person would and should do more than take somebody else’s opinion prior to committing to buy the club, anything else is complete naivety at best. Slightly concerning considering he is trying to rebuild our train wreck of a club!

3) When talking about transfers and Juan Sartori SD stated that if he asked Juan for the funds to buy Jack Marriot he would probably stump up the cash but that’s not how he wants to do things. Surely the absolute priority at this stage of proceedings has to be to get this club promoted at the first time of asking? You don’t buy an investment property at a song that needs renovating and try to fix it up on a shoestring over a long period while your mate who invested with you has the funds to turn the property around quickly? This club in the Premiership is worth £150 - 200 million, £5 - 10 million spent now to guarantee a swift return to the Championship is surely money well spent, what is SD attempting to prove and why by adopting his approach?

Before people start banging on with “we spent money before look where it got us” spending money didnt get us to the 3rd division poor management did.

and

we would rather be self sufficient than reliant on a billionaire” I couldn’t give a damn how we achieve it I just want to see a team capable of challenging in the top half of the Premier League which is where this club should be!
The bloke is an absolute chancer
 
Decided to listen to the latest RR “love in” Podcast with SD last night. I was initially left feeling enthused and positive by what SD had to say and whilst I think he has genuine intentions but on reflection I can’t help but question a couple of things he said.

1) when asked about taking out short term loans instead of asking Juan Sartori to help out he rambled on about being to proud to go cap in hand to Juan at this stage. Well that’s all well and good but surely the well being and rebuilding of the club should come before SD saving face over what he is now claiming to be a “rushed” uncomprehensive due diligence?

2) SD said the reason the loans might be needed is partly due to the Alvarez court case. He went on to claim that Ellis Short had advised there was “no chance” we would lose the case so nothing to worry about. I’m sorry but surely with the money involved in losing the case any person would and should do more than take somebody else’s opinion prior to committing to buy the club, anything else is complete naivety at best. Slightly concerning considering he is trying to rebuild our train wreck of a club!

3) When talking about transfers and Juan Sartori SD stated that if he asked Juan for the funds to buy Jack Marriot he would probably stump up the cash but that’s not how he wants to do things. Surely the absolute priority at this stage of proceedings has to be to get this club promoted at the first time of asking? You don’t buy an investment property at a song that needs renovating and try to fix it up on a shoestring over a long period while your mate who invested with you has the funds to turn the property around quickly? This club in the Premiership is worth £150 - 200 million, £5 - 10 million spent now to guarantee a swift return to the Championship is surely money well spent, what is SD attempting to prove and why by adopting his approach?

Before people start banging on with “we spent money before look where it got us” spending money didnt get us to the 3rd division poor management did.

and

we would rather be self sufficient than reliant on a billionaire” I couldn’t give a damn how we achieve it I just want to see a team capable of challenging in the top half of the Premier League which is where this club should be!


Meanwhile we interrupt this programme to look at how the others live and survive. Tonight we turn our attention to a once great club that graced footballs top flight. This is Swindon Town a club in The heart of Wiltshire and in decline.
Relying once again on one year deals and free transfers........
 
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