Premier League officials in talks with cyber-security experts to block illegal streaming of matches


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Thr NFL does it and that seems to be the model the league want to follow - razzmatazz and heavy on the adverts.
That's it I'm emailing them with my idea, just remember where you heard the name first. ;)
Aye, that's always been their priority as seen by the way they filter down the cash. It really narks me when they say that as a Hereford Utd fan is as passionate about seeing his team as an Arsenal one and wouldnt miss it to watch us V Palace, for example. It's really pompous of the PL to even think that.
I've always said, if a lower league fan wanted to watch a premier league club, there will be one not far away from them.
 
They wouldn't be paying so much out if they (tv company's) thought they wouldn't be getting it back plus more.....however god forbid individual teams get the chance to sort their own tv contracts out..as this will see the likes of ManUtd , Liverpool etc go into mega drive and the like of us will be left at the way side...
 
That's it I'm emailing them with my idea, just remember where you heard the name first. ;)

I've always said, if a lower league fan wanted to watch a premier league club, there will be one not far away from them.

Exactly mate. It's absolute bollocks to say otherwise. The early Saturday game finishes about half an hour before kick off so all the lower league's fans must be really local to their ground as they obviously make the Premier League their priority, according to pricks like Scudamore.
 
The irony is the android boxes are killing the pubs now. A season or two back my mate who has a pub was rubbing his hands on match day and it was the pubs getting the blame for the drop in attendance. Now everyone is watching at home and not even going to the local.

That's very true mate.
 
I said this last season that they would put a stop to it(or have a damned good try) and was roundly laughed at.

It's pretty easy to do you just flood the servers with requests and they fold under the pressure. I doubt they'd use this approach as other server users would be effected but a more sophisticated DOS would be my bet.

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They are almost certain to clamp down on it very shortly. It wouldn't surprise me if they made an example of a few people as well

I think it will be much less. I think it was Clive Tyldsley (or some other footie commentator) who said as much on Talksport a few weeks ago. He said all the youngrer generation are watching streams on dodgy boxes (even dropped his own sons in the shite) and it would mean that SKY would never again pay the massive amount they've just paid.

Good.

We have said that before though mate. Football is now a key part of both BT/Sky's home entertainment services and they will not let that go easily - especially when billions can be made TV/broadband/phone packages
 
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They are almost certain to clamp down on it very shortly. It wouldn't surprise me if they made an example of a few people as well



We have said that before though mate. Football is now a key part of both BT/Sky's home entertainment services and they will not let that go easily - especially when billions can be made TV/broadband/phone packages

I think this is the biggest threat they've faced though - and it's growing exponentially. They pay massive amounts because they sell the rights overseas - they'll all have android boxes as well. No-one will put up with paying £100/month for footie and a few films in future, the genie is out of the bottle.
 
I think this is the biggest threat they've faced though - and it's growing exponentially. They pay massive amounts because they sell the rights overseas - they'll all have android boxes as well. No-one will put up with paying £100/month for footie and a few films in future, the genie is out of the bottle.

I fully expect the premier league to go on the offensive from the start of next season with streams. Of course they could never close them all, but they could make it very difficult for people to watch them.

Plus it has to be said, three of the biggest broadband providers in the UK are in the pockets of the premier league.
 
Why would anyone pay for a PLP or any other internet subscription when you can get it FREE. This will never happen in a million years the PL made football streaming what it is today by have its own flawed system of ripping the fans off.

I said this last season that they would put a stop to it(or have a damned good try) and was roundly laughed at.

It's pretty easy to do you just flood the servers with requests and they fold under the pressure. I doubt they'd use this approach as other server users would be effected but a more sophisticated DOS would be my bet.

isn't that illegal? So to stop someone from illegally streaming football you yourself are going to commit cyber crime?
 
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Two points......the whole issue we are discussing on this thread is the possibility that the authorities are going to try to stop illegal streams. I'm talking about an alternative should that scenario occur.

Secondly, you say the PL is missing a trick by not offering the likes of yourself the option of purchasing the product.......yet you state that the streams are out there for free anyway.....why would anyone pay for them if they're available for nowt.

Two answers, as me and a few others have said, it really is not technically possible and legally dubious - so streaming will continue. The alternative to stopping it is to provide it legally.

Which leads to point 2. If they are fairly cheap but reliable and good quality then people will pay. Currently watching games on streams can be very hit and miss in terms of quality or not working at all. Some sites are full of adverts, some popping up blocking the view and others potential sources of malware. The World Cup available on iPlayer really showed what can be done when done well.

The movie industry has adjusted with the likes of Netflix offering huge amounts of TV for very little. The youth and students are usually ahead of the game on this sort of thing. 5 years ago, internet usage from student halls of residence was dominated by BitTorrent as students downloaded and watched all their TV via it. Universities would be issued with hundreds of 'cease and desist' mails from legal bodies acting on behalf of copyright holders, identifying IP addresses used in sharing illegal content. It was a massive problem with some buying expensive devices to throttle or block torren traffic. These days, the majority of student internet traffic is legal movie streaming. £5.99 per month gets you access to Netflix, many are probably using their parents/family account. Similar deals exist with other providers. Cease and desist mails still happen but very infrequently.

The movie industry tried legal moves to stop pirating but none of them got anywhere and those that did (Pirate Bay 'closure') achieved nothing. Pirating still goes on and Kodi as a mechanism for supporting that is very popular, but in terms of traffic it is in the minority. When the legal methods failed, the movie industry adjusted, prices got cheaper, DVDs got cheaper and the time between cinema closure and stream/DVD release is very short. Essentially the movie industry changed its business to fall in line with what people wanted and were prepared to pay.

It seems like football is trying what the movie industry tried a few years ago. It will fail and ultimately be they will be forced down the same path. Wouldn't it be nice if they just listened to their potential customers now, look at what happened in other areas of entertainment and delivered their product legally to hungry customers waiting for them to do so?
 
Two answers, as me and a few others have said, it really is not technically possible and legally dubious - so streaming will continue. The alternative to stopping it is to provide it legally.

Which leads to point 2. If they are fairly cheap but reliable and good quality then people will pay. Currently watching games on streams can be very hit and miss in terms of quality or not working at all. Some sites are full of adverts, some popping up blocking the view and others potential sources of malware. The World Cup available on iPlayer really showed what can be done when done well.

The movie industry has adjusted with the likes of Netflix offering huge amounts of TV for very little. The youth and students are usually ahead of the game on this sort of thing. 5 years ago, internet usage from student halls of residence was dominated by BitTorrent as students downloaded and watched all their TV via it. Universities would be issued with hundreds of 'cease and desist' mails from legal bodies acting on behalf of copyright holders, identifying IP addresses used in sharing illegal content. It was a massive problem with some buying expensive devices to throttle or block torren traffic. These days, the majority of student internet traffic is legal movie streaming. £5.99 per month gets you access to Netflix, many are probably using their parents/family account. Similar deals exist with other providers. Cease and desist mails still happen but very infrequently.

The movie industry tried legal moves to stop pirating but none of them got anywhere and those that did (Pirate Bay 'closure') achieved nothing. Pirating still goes on and Kodi as a mechanism for supporting that is very popular, but in terms of traffic it is in the minority. When the legal methods failed, the movie industry adjusted, prices got cheaper, DVDs got cheaper and the time between cinema closure and stream/DVD release is very short. Essentially the movie industry changed its business to fall in line with what people wanted and were prepared to pay.

It seems like football is trying what the movie industry tried a few years ago. It will fail and ultimately be they will be forced down the same path. Wouldn't it be nice if they just listened to their potential customers now, look at what happened in other areas of entertainment and delivered their product legally to hungry customers waiting for them to do so?

Good post mate. Imo the premier league will already be looking into a new streaming platform, but due to the new TV contract, nothing will happen for three years.

In the meantime I can really see the league going after streaming sites from the start of next season. They won't be able to fully stop them, but they will make them harder to find. It also wouldn't surprise me if they tried to take legal action against people who stream - if for no other reason it may scare people till they have the new platform ready
 
Good post mate. Imo the premier league will already be looking into a new streaming platform, but due to the new TV contract, nothing will happen for three years.

In the meantime I can really see the league going after streaming sites from the start of next season. They won't be able to fully stop them, but they will make them harder to find. It also wouldn't surprise me if they tried to take legal action against people who stream - if for no other reason it may scare people till they have the new platform ready
How are they going to stop e.g. russian or chinese streamers who have isps who completely ignore cease and desist orders.

The premier league can try what they want. It will have absolutely no impact whatsoever.
 
Hey, THE FULWELL, if this happens, giz me money back or I'll.....Erm....well...not be chuffed:lol:
 
Illegal boxes were the demise of ITV Digital and the League clubs lost a lot of TV revenue.


ITV Digital were as much to blame themselves for paying way too much for the football league coverage in the first place and having boxes that didn't have great encryption.
 
As has already been said by daveh , they wont be stopping streaming they will have to come up with their own affordable streaming , nowt for us streamers to worry about.
 
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