Poyet Pleads For New Personnel


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I'm not talking about the style of play. Jesus man, it's not difficult to deduct what I'm talking about.

This isn't the way poyet wants to play either, he's said that for months. You can see him going wild on the sideline at the match. He needs to be braver in our initial setup though. But I wasn't talking about the style of play whatsoever
What style then?

And if he can't get the players to play by his plans what does he offer?
 
You don't really make a good point to be fair..as the thread was about poyet yet you discuss the role of a DOF, however I'm not saying lets get rid of the DOF as he's not the one coaching and picking the team
But it's consistency across the board, we are exactly where I personally expected us to be. I do want us to be more forceful in games and I pray it improves. I just don't think it's all panic stations and alarm bells just yet.

There comes a point when we do need to stick with a manager somewhere along the line. Relying on new manager bounces is one of the main reasons we are in this position
 
Not strictly true .., it's a case of years of shit had got into a mess, you can have the best manager in the world but they won't go too far with a squad of for the most part mediocre players

Poyet isn't a good as some people seem to think but he's saddled with a lot of players which are playing at s level above their ability
exactly nail on the head
 
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What style then?

And if he can't get the players to play by his plans what does he offer?
I meant a style throughout the club. Where the management, scouts and DOF all know the style we want to play and buy players to fit the system for the first time in years.

I don't believe this is the style poyet wants to play. We never played it last season and he's insisting that it's not his style.

The aim I want us to achieve may happen with poyet or maybe somebody else down the line. As I've said though, we do need to stick with somebody at some point.
 
All he said was you don't know how exactly a midfield is going to line up. Some teams do play very similar formations each week but Liverpool do change it quite often. All he's talking about is the unpredictability. He's not saying he has no idea at all. That's just you thinking that.

He's getting paid millions of pounds to manage in the best league in the world, yet he doesn't know how Liverpool will line up, he gets the starting 11 given to him 1 hour before the game..:oops: and don't you think he wouldn't have watched videos leading up to the game,come on man I'll say it again stop making excuses for him..he's blaming everyone but him self
 
He's introduced us to playing for draws.... whilst losing.

This is what bothers me more than anything else.

He's right in what he says.

But he's wrong it what he sees as the answer. That squad is better than 20 points after 21 games in this league and the reason he is not doing as well as he might is answered by himself. He's trying to play the style he wants regardless of if he has the personnel to do so or not. How hard is it to look at the players and realise uhhh perhaps i'd better try an figure out how to play to what strengths I do have.

Nope...week after week he persists in making us play his way, despite week after week seeing that it doesn't work.

Some politician not too long ago asked the Bishop of Liverpool how the city had turned itself around when he was shown around the sparkling new city centre. The Bishop replied 'we stopped feeling sorry for ourselves'. Perhaps if Gus stops bemoaning that he doesn't have the players to play his way and starts playing the best he can with what he's got we might do a little better.
 
So if you know who there are, please tell let me know, as up to now all you've done is made a statement and not backed it up

You first, Billy Big Bollocks , because you made the first statement.
 
I'm sorry, but that's the final straw for me. He's losing the plot again and starts blaming everyone.

Let get some facts right. His famous "system" is nothing but a boring, park the bus, defensive tactic. We defend with 10 men and hope for the best when we have the ball. It has nothing to do with the Barcelona style, total football, the Swansea style or modern football. It's actually closer to catenaccio as someone posted a few weeks ago or the Pulis style but without the attacking threat.
So I can't see what is his bigger long term plan he keeps talking about.

Good bye, Gus! Thanks for the memories!
Yup, manager/coach's fault. Lets blame him rather than look at the complete mismanagement from top to bottom.
Gus out, all hail the new King, until we want the King out again...
 
You first, Billy Big Bollocks , because you made the first statement.

Well I said the best players he has he didn't buy..well I would include Johnson Cattermole, O'Shea, Larrson, Brown, Fletcher..So please continue with your statement
 
Yes, it was only one option for spendind 10m on a midfielder, I'm sure. No other footballer could have meet the criteria.
Do you think Rodwell turned down Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs to come here - give owa man.. therse a reason he's here.
 
I meant a style throughout the club. Where the management, scouts and DOF all know the style we want to play and buy players to fit the system for the first time in years.

I don't believe this is the style poyet wants to play. We never played it last season and he's insisting that it's not his style.

The aim I want us to achieve may happen with poyet or maybe somebody else down the line. As I've said though, we do need to stick with somebody at some point.
So you were talking about the style of play then.

Do you think Rodwell turned down Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs to come here - give owa man.. therse a reason he's here.
I don't get your point.
 
He's trying to play the style he wants regardless of if he has the personnel to do so or not. How hard is it to look at the players and realise uhhh perhaps i'd better try an figure out how to play to what strengths I do have.
I'll repeat what I posted elsewhere on a 'Gomez' thread. I agree with you:

We have no pace in the side, and pack the defence. If you're going to do that, you need to break quickly. Gomez cannot do this, he is too slow in mind and body and spends most of his time dithering on the ball trying to be 'fouled'. He is a big part of a massive problem we have as a squad. We play possession football but can't keep possession unless it's under the nose of the keeper, and we defend in huge numbers and break at a snails pace. These are tactical decisions, made by the manager, because he is trying to force a system that doesn't work, instead of trying to actually find a way that fits the players we have - that's what a good manager would do.
Poyet is a 1-trick pony, and his trick doesn't work. He's trying to turn a fat shirehorse into Pegasus, and complains when it can't fly.

Read more: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/thread...nd-cannot-afford.1019873/page-3#ixzz3OYlndYFO
 
Well I said the best players he has he didn't buy..well I would include Johnson Cattermole, O'Shea, Larrson, Brown, Fletcher..So please continue with your statement

Three of them gave up under Bruce. Five of them under MoN and PDC, and again under Poyet. Only Poyet pulled it round once.

Suspect.
Attitudes.
 
I agree with this the thing that baffles me is the way Poyet wants to play

he has spoken about it quite a few times how we are so far away from how he wants us but what exactly does he want us to be playing like?

surely we should be playing in a way close to how he wants us to be not nowhere near it

I've said it in the past and Poyet has alluded to this recently - we don't have enough intelligent footballers. I'm not surprised if some/most are struggling to adapt to a new style of play. Alonso, Colback, Ki and Borini all seemed to take to it quickly but perhaps that's down to them simply being better players.
 
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