Poyet Pleads For New Personnel


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Maybe, but that's still debatable
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/may/21/tony-pulis-stokecity
"Stoke City have started their search for a new manager after Tony Pulis's second spell in charge at the Britannia Stadium came to a sour end when he was sacked on Tuesday afternoon. Pulis met with Peter Coates at the Stoke owner's offices and was told that the Premier League club want to move in a new direction.

Later in the day Stoke issued a short statement claiming that they had reached a mutual agreement with the manager that he would leave his post with immediate effect. However, it is understood that Pulis, who had a 12-month rolling contract, was pushed."
Crystal Palace.
 
Every time?

Some transfers work out, and people get to know about them. Many others don't, and players disappear into the ether.

Well it's a fact that these clubs can go out and find players (sometimes) for less which become better players
 
it was a hell of a gamble though - I think he's ok but his position is in front of the back four but we needed someone who could play further up - and apparently we could have had Ki for 10. Plus, he doesn't seem to fancy Rodwell too much.
Scocco and Rodwell have both bombed up to now. And keeping Altidore more than the first week he was here reflects badly on Poyet's ability to see a good player or otherwise.
 
Maybe, but that's still debatable
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/may/21/tony-pulis-stokecity
"Stoke City have started their search for a new manager after Tony Pulis's second spell in charge at the Britannia Stadium came to a sour end when he was sacked on Tuesday afternoon. Pulis met with Peter Coates at the Stoke owner's offices and was told that the Premier League club want to move in a new direction.

Later in the day Stoke issued a short statement claiming that they had reached a mutual agreement with the manager that he would leave his post with immediate effect. However, it is understood that Pulis, who had a 12-month rolling contract, was pushed."
he walked out on Palace not stoke this season
 
He's absolutely spot on. We have been f***ing dog shit for years, since Phillips and co.

It's going to take a long time for any manager to turn this club around and Poyet needs time as any manager would. We can't be turned around in a season or two seasons. The big worry is though, our signings in the summer were pathetic meaning we need a load of players yet again.

I agree with this the thing that baffles me is the way Poyet wants to play

he has spoken about it quite a few times how we are so far away from how he wants us but what exactly does he want us to be playing like?

surely we should be playing in a way close to how he wants us to be not nowhere near it
 
The only time we've been properly brilliant in the PL era was when Phillips and Quinn were about. Most other seasons have been a slog. Gus is telling the truth to be honest and he's saying what every fan is thinking deep down. We need to get back those days and being a great team again. Sick of settling for second best when we know we have it in us to be the f***ing best.
 
The only time we've been properly brilliant in the PL era was when Phillips and Quinn were about. Most other seasons have been a slog. Gus is telling the truth to be honest and he's saying what every fan is thinking deep down. We need to get back those days and being a great team again. Sick of settling for second best when we know we have it in us to be the f***ing best.

We did well then because we gave every team a battle, we weren't frighted to get forward, and sometimes we lost but at least we gave it a go
 
"As a team we’re not adaptable and not intelligent.”

And here is our biggest problem. Gus doesn't see the irony. You play to your strengths, if our players aren't getting the way he wants to play he has to adapt and change his style. Maybe he isn't adaptable or intelligent enough to change tactics.

He has, he's switched to the "Fuck it lets just defend everything" tactic.
 
We did well then because we gave every team a battle, we weren't frighted to get forward, and sometimes we lost but at least we gave it a go

We also had two of the greatest strikers ever to play for Sunderland. Two of them in the same team playing like nothing else we've seen since. They were bloody amazing. We can only dream of having a duo like that up top again.
 
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Gustavo Poyet fears Sunderland remain “miles away” from where he would like to position the club.

The Black Cats are 16th in the Premier League, one point above the relegation zone following Saturday’s 1-0 defeat to Liverpool at the Stadium of Light.

They have won just three league games this season, only one on Wearside and once, also, in their last 11 top-flight outings. Poyet believes the club is moving, albeit slowly, in the right direction, away from a recent past spent yo-yoing between the Premier League and the Championship, or staving off relegation from the former to the latter on an annual basis.

Those teams were “rubbish”, he said, “full of bad decisions and suffering” and lacked “characteristics”.

The Uruguayan continues to attempt to stamp some degree of identity on Sunderland.

But while trying to “find a way together”, Poyet believes there is still a long way to go.

Asked why his players had backed off from their Liverpool opponents, rather than close them down, he said: “There was confusion.

“It’s about understanding the game. We need to be flexible. You cannot take things literally.

“When you go on the pitch things are going to happen and I cannot predict what will happen.

“You don’t know if a team will play four in the middle, square across the pitch. You need to adapt.

“The disappointing thing is we sorted it out at half-time. I was expecting my team to be able to sort it out themselves. That is why I am disappointed.

“(Getting into opponents’ faces) was the characteristic of one Sunderland. Kevin Phillips and (Niall) Quinn.

“The rest of the teams of Sunderland (between then and now) did not have any characteristics. They were rubbish. They were playing for relegation and suffering.

“I am trying something. But we are miles away to a point that it worries me a little bit.”



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Sunderland manager Gus Poyet before the match


Invited to compare those teams he deemed “rubbish” to his own, Poyet added: “I don’t care, I am just saying what I feel.

“We have to be realistic. Sunderland have been in the top 10 once in the last 15 years I think. The rest have been full of bad decisions and suffering.

“One season they had a player who scored 24 goals (Darren Bent) and since that player left, no one has scored more than 15.

“I could give you all the stats you like, but it is very simple. You cannot go backwards.

“Niall Quinn retired a few years ago and Kevin Phillips is a coach at Leicester (City) so we can’t go back to that team.

“We need to find a way together, making the team play in a certain way. We have to be better and more adaptable, more intelligent on the pitch as a team and we are not.

“Maybe we should play Newcastle every week.

“I accept we gave away 45 minutes today. After that we tried. I cannot ask for any more than that with the personnel we have got.

“I was expecting against Leeds (United, in the FA Cup third round eight days ago) for my team to control the game but we didn’t. That really made me feel bad.

“We have no option but to keep going, to make it better, make better changes and decisions.

“The players (Steven Fletcher, Jozy Altidore, Jack Rodwell, Lee Cattermole and Anthony Reveillere) coming back from injury have big, big chances now. I need them. I hope they take them.”
 
We also had two of the greatest strikers ever to play for Sunderland. Two of them in the same team playing like nothing else we've seen since. They were bloody amazing. We can only dream of having a duo like that up top again.

When Philips was signed no one knew who he was, and I can remember people kicking off saying we had bought a Watford reject, and most people had given up on Quinny..funny what good management can do isn't it
 
I'm sorry, but that's the final straw for me. He's losing the plot again and starts blaming everyone.

Let get some facts right. His famous "system" is nothing but a boring, park the bus, defensive tactic. We defend with 10 men and hope for the best when we have the ball. It has nothing to do with the Barcelona style, total football, the Swansea style or modern football. It's actually closer to catenaccio as someone posted a few weeks ago or the Pulis style but without the attacking threat.
So I can't see what is his bigger long term plan he keeps talking about.

Good bye, Gus! Thanks for the memories!
 
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Gustavo Poyet fears Sunderland remain “miles away” from where he would like to position the club.

The Black Cats are 16th in the Premier League, one point above the relegation zone following Saturday’s 1-0 defeat to Liverpool at the Stadium of Light.

They have won just three league games this season, only one on Wearside and once, also, in their last 11 top-flight outings. Poyet believes the club is moving, albeit slowly, in the right direction, away from a recent past spent yo-yoing between the Premier League and the Championship, or staving off relegation from the former to the latter on an annual basis.

Those teams were “rubbish”, he said, “full of bad decisions and suffering” and lacked “characteristics”.

The Uruguayan continues to attempt to stamp some degree of identity on Sunderland.

But while trying to “find a way together”, Poyet believes there is still a long way to go.

Asked why his players had backed off from their Liverpool opponents, rather than close them down, he said: “There was confusion.

“It’s about understanding the game. We need to be flexible. You cannot take things literally.

“When you go on the pitch things are going to happen and I cannot predict what will happen.

“You don’t know if a team will play four in the middle, square across the pitch. You need to adapt.

“The disappointing thing is we sorted it out at half-time. I was expecting my team to be able to sort it out themselves. That is why I am disappointed.

“(Getting into opponents’ faces) was the characteristic of one Sunderland. Kevin Phillips and (Niall) Quinn.

“The rest of the teams of Sunderland (between then and now) did not have any characteristics. They were rubbish. They were playing for relegation and suffering.

“I am trying something. But we are miles away to a point that it worries me a little bit.”



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Sunderland manager Gus Poyet before the match


Invited to compare those teams he deemed “rubbish” to his own, Poyet added: “I don’t care, I am just saying what I feel.

“We have to be realistic. Sunderland have been in the top 10 once in the last 15 years I think. The rest have been full of bad decisions and suffering.

“One season they had a player who scored 24 goals (Darren Bent) and since that player left, no one has scored more than 15.

“I could give you all the stats you like, but it is very simple. You cannot go backwards.

“Niall Quinn retired a few years ago and Kevin Phillips is a coach at Leicester (City) so we can’t go back to that team.

“We need to find a way together, making the team play in a certain way. We have to be better and more adaptable, more intelligent on the pitch as a team and we are not.

“Maybe we should play Newcastle every week.

“I accept we gave away 45 minutes today. After that we tried. I cannot ask for any more than that with the personnel we have got.

“I was expecting against Leeds (United, in the FA Cup third round eight days ago) for my team to control the game but we didn’t. That really made me feel bad.

“We have no option but to keep going, to make it better, make better changes and decisions.

“The players (Steven Fletcher, Jozy Altidore, Jack Rodwell, Lee Cattermole and Anthony Reveillere) coming back from injury have big, big chances now. I need them. I hope they take them.”

no Gus we are totally fucked if he comes back
 
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Gustavo Poyet fears Sunderland remain “miles away” from where he would like to position the club.

The Black Cats are 16th in the Premier League, one point above the relegation zone following Saturday’s 1-0 defeat to Liverpool at the Stadium of Light.

They have won just three league games this season, only one on Wearside and once, also, in their last 11 top-flight outings. Poyet believes the club is moving, albeit slowly, in the right direction, away from a recent past spent yo-yoing between the Premier League and the Championship, or staving off relegation from the former to the latter on an annual basis.

Those teams were “rubbish”, he said, “full of bad decisions and suffering” and lacked “characteristics”.

The Uruguayan continues to attempt to stamp some degree of identity on Sunderland.

But while trying to “find a way together”, Poyet believes there is still a long way to go.

Asked why his players had backed off from their Liverpool opponents, rather than close them down, he said: “There was confusion.

“It’s about understanding the game. We need to be flexible. You cannot take things literally.

“When you go on the pitch things are going to happen and I cannot predict what will happen.

“You don’t know if a team will play four in the middle, square across the pitch. You need to adapt.

“The disappointing thing is we sorted it out at half-time. I was expecting my team to be able to sort it out themselves. That is why I am disappointed.

“(Getting into opponents’ faces) was the characteristic of one Sunderland. Kevin Phillips and (Niall) Quinn.

“The rest of the teams of Sunderland (between then and now) did not have any characteristics. They were rubbish. They were playing for relegation and suffering.

“I am trying something. But we are miles away to a point that it worries me a little bit.”



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Sunderland manager Gus Poyet before the match


Invited to compare those teams he deemed “rubbish” to his own, Poyet added: “I don’t care, I am just saying what I feel.

“We have to be realistic. Sunderland have been in the top 10 once in the last 15 years I think. The rest have been full of bad decisions and suffering.

“One season they had a player who scored 24 goals (Darren Bent) and since that player left, no one has scored more than 15.

“I could give you all the stats you like, but it is very simple. You cannot go backwards.

“Niall Quinn retired a few years ago and Kevin Phillips is a coach at Leicester (City) so we can’t go back to that team.

“We need to find a way together, making the team play in a certain way. We have to be better and more adaptable, more intelligent on the pitch as a team and we are not.

“Maybe we should play Newcastle every week.

“I accept we gave away 45 minutes today. After that we tried. I cannot ask for any more than that with the personnel we have got.

“I was expecting against Leeds (United, in the FA Cup third round eight days ago) for my team to control the game but we didn’t. That really made me feel bad.

“We have no option but to keep going, to make it better, make better changes and decisions.

“The players (Steven Fletcher, Jozy Altidore, Jack Rodwell, Lee Cattermole and Anthony Reveillere) coming back from injury have big, big chances now. I need them. I hope they take them.”

What f***ing waffle, and he doesn't know how the other team will set up...does he f***ing sleep all week
 
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