Police Getting Convictions

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MonkeyLove

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On the theme of the shoplifting thread has anyone noticed on all these reality police documentaries how rarely at the end the Police manage to get a conviction, the charges are dropped or case discontinued.

Been loads of these type of programmes on at the moment - 24 hours in police custody, the met, the force, police interceptors etc...

Occasionally catch them and at the end when they run through the outcomes they nearly all always seem to get off.

Seen a few where it looked bang to rights. People caught with a knife etc... and then at the end it's 'Charges were dropped' or released without charge. Even on the met when armed police arrested a couple with a loaded gun in the glovebox it said the case was acquitted and new charges against another defendent dropped.

Must be sickening for the police like and makes you wonder how efficient the justice system is.
 


Same with the car chase ones. Scratter nicks car leading to hi-speed persuit etc.

"The driver of the stolen car was disqualified from driving for 2 weeks and fined 3 pounds"
 
ravydavygravy said:
Same with the car chase ones. Scratter nicks car leading to hi-speed persuit etc.

"The driver of the stolen car was disqualified from driving for 2 weeks and fined 3 pounds"
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That's the other one.

Even the ones where they are done the sentences seem a joke. But there seem to be even more where they are caught red handed and for whatever reason they are 'Released without charge'
 
ravydavygravy said:
Same with the car chase ones. Scratter nicks car leading to hi-speed persuit etc.

"The driver of the stolen car was disqualified from driving for 2 weeks and fined 3 pounds"
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& said car thief will be up before the court time & time again, making money for solicitors & keeping judges in a job. It would be silly to send everyone to prison. They just might learn their lesson.

Keep the scum coming back on a regular basis. People working in law have to 'earn' their money somewhere.
 
MonkeyLove said:
On the theme of the shoplifting thread has anyone noticed on all these reality police documentaries how rarely at the end the Police manage to get a conviction, the charges are dropped or case discontinued.

Been loads of these type of programmes on at the moment - 24 hours in police custody, the met, the force, police interceptors etc...

Occasionally catch them and at the end when they run through the outcomes they nearly all always seem to get off.

Seen a few where it looked bang to rights. People caught with a knife etc... and then at the end it's 'Charges were dropped' or released without charge. Even on the met when armed police arrested a couple with a loaded gun in the glovebox it said the case was acquitted and new charges against another defendent dropped.

Must be sickening for the police like and makes you wonder how efficient the justice system is.
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It's called civil liberties and burden of proof etc etc.
Thank god as well that they exist.
Recent history is littered with cops securing wrongful convictions in their unseemly haste to 'meet kpi's'.
 
ravydavygravy said:
Not enough jails. More importantly nee one will work in current jails seemingly.
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Build more jails is the answer! more jobs will be created i.e builders, prison officers etc so as a result more tax is paid back into the treasury, unemployment rate will be down so less people claiming from the state. Also less criminals on the street and the crime rate will be down. everyone is a winner!
 
FannyByTheGaslight said:
Build more jails is the answer! more jobs will be created i.e builders, prison officers etc so as a result more tax is paid back into the treasury, unemployment rate will be down so less people claiming from the state. Also less criminals on the street and the crime rate will be down. everyone is a winner!
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Where? Nobody wants a prison on their doorstep.
 
FannyByTheGaslight said:
I think there is plenty of places mate and nobody wants criminals who should be in prison on there doorstep also.
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Especially those people who rip open 5-packs of blades in B&Q in order to nick one! :lol::lol:

Dinsdale said:
This

Its when the CPS drop cases due to "lack of evidence" are the ones that crack me, normally when they've been caught red handed on camera doing something and just deny everything til they're blue in the face
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No comment!
 
Regarding the phenomenon of seemingly cast-iron convictions being dropped by the CPS, I imagine that perhaps our justice system is so skewed toward protection against possible miscarriage of justice due to over-enthusiastic policing as alluded to earlier in the thread, that sometimes excessively high bars are set for the level of evidence that the police have to provide.

This situation is not helped by the fact that miscreants have an army of publicly-funded lawyers at their disposal who will turn any tiny chink in the evidence into a gaping chasm, and the CPS know this and are keen to not be seen wasting the courts' time.
 
Scimmy said:
Regarding the phenomenon of seemingly cast-iron convictions being dropped by the CPS, I imagine that perhaps our justice system is so skewed toward protection against possible miscarriage of justice due to over-enthusiastic policing as alluded to earlier in the thread, that sometimes excessively high bars are set for the level of evidence that the police have to provide.

This situation is not helped by the fact that miscreants have an army of publicly-funded lawyers at their disposal who will turn any tiny chink in the evidence into a gaping chasm, and the CPS know this and are keen to not be seen wasting the courts' time.
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Or perhaps there is a formal drive to reduce custodial sentences because they don't work and are very expensive.
 
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