Police constantly quoting “diminishing resources” as reason for rising crime statistics

Hull_Mackem

Striker
OK then, point taken.. Why havnt the police brought him in for questioning, which is what I would imagine Jacky is alluding too. Present the evidence against him. The police have already said they have enough on him. I may not be the sharpest in law, I don't need to be, I don't get that he shouldn't be brought in for questioning.
Maybe they are too busy to have got round to it yet. Which answers the OP.
 

mux

Striker
Well I obviously don't know all the answers. But from my point of view the police were caught massively short at the back end of the 90s when the Internet took off and have never really caught up...

A lot of policing is about perception - I don't think the staff you do have are visible enough, your PR team is shocking considering I rarely hear about the good work you do and any that I do hear about is massively outweighed by negative police stories.

Loss of staff isn't the reason the crime figures have gone up - different types of crime you don't know how to handle is, in my opinion.
Not really in my experience mate.

Police are getting better at recording crime. There are many more crimes recorded now than would have been even two years ago.
 

jackynutmeg

Striker
‘Brought him in for questioning’ alludes to arresting him which I have already explained about numerous times. He will be questioned but at an appropriate time.



As above, going and getting him would be arresting him which from what you have told us about the incident is not an option at the minute.
Is he actually going about and causing trouble or do you just think he is?
he is going about causing trouble
 

jackynutmeg

Striker
Expand on that.
Posting videos and photos of them harassing people.
Ringing her up from different mobile numbers and threatening her.
Driving round like a fucking idiot.
So he should be allowed to carry on with his arsehole lifestyle while she is frightened to leave the house?
They havent even been back in touch with the guy for a statement that witnessed it all and actually saved her from more harm
 
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Invictus

Central Defender
Posting videos and photos of them harassing people.
Ringing her up from different mobile numbers and threatening her.
Driving round like a fucking idiot.
So he should be allowed to carry on with his arsehole lifestyle while she is frightened to leave the house?
They havent even been back in touch with the guy for a statement that witnessed it all and actually saved her from more harm
Have you told the cops what he’s doing? If so that gives them better grounds to arrest him.
 

Invictus

Central Defender
Yep and all videos and photos have been emailed to them
How long has it been since the initial incident happened? If it’s only been a couple of days then unfortunately that’s the way things are atm.
It will also depend on the shift pattern days off etc. Of the cops dealing as these type of things tend to be kept by individual officers and they obviously don’t work 24/7.
 

jackynutmeg

Striker
How long has it been since the initial incident happened? If it’s only been a couple of days then unfortunately that’s the way things are atm.
It will also depend on the shift pattern days off etc. Of the cops dealing as these type of things tend to be kept by individual officers and they obviously don’t work 24/7.
Been a week and a half now.
TBH mate after saying they were going to do this..going to do that...saying the case will be passed on to the next office on shift...getting statements....looks like they have done none of that.
They really need to get hold of him before i do.
 

Invictus

Central Defender
Been a week and a half now.
TBH mate after saying they were going to do this..going to do that...saying the case will be passed on to the next office on shift...getting statements....looks like they have done none of that.
They really need to get hold of him before i do.
I would give them a ring and see what’s happening. Things might be getting done that you don’t know about or the might need a gentle nudge to speed things along.
If you think they are just not bothering their arses ring up and have a chat with their Sergeant and explain what’s going on.
They will either explain why things haven’t been done or make sure something happens.
Part of the problem is cops are swamped these days and things tend to get put off and put off because they are busy answering calls on the radio.
 

jackynutmeg

Striker
I would give them a ring and see what’s happening. Things might be getting done that you don’t know about or the might need a gentle nudge to speed things along.
If you think they are just not bothering their arses ring up and have a chat with their Sergeant and explain what’s going on.
They will either explain why things haven’t been done or make sure something happens.
Tried that mate. They just said they will keep us updated.
 

BlackOps

Winger
eh? where did you get that from?
No one is disagreeing with you coz i think we all know that you are well versed in this area
We all just think that this level of bureaucracy is what is strangling the Police.
You are coming across as a bit of a (Policemans) helmet.
PACE G doesnt mean it strangles the police. It usually works well. Where a job doesnt require an arrest its handy arranging with a suspect a time when it suits the cop for them to come to the station to be interviewed. No need to go out and look and lock up. Booking into custody and then having to be stuck inside completing a package to deal with it there and then. That happens when its required but getting people in as VAs is handy

The cops are the agency that cannot say 'no'. They spend at least 50 % of their time dealing with the massive mental health void that the government ignore. This was not the case 10 years ago.
This is the issue at the moment. Person takes suspecter overdose. Call gets put through to police and ambulance. Ambulance intially grade it high. Cops attend first as we're quicker on immediate response. Person is fine, no severe symptons. Ambulance get diverted as they downgrade it to a 2-3 hour response leaving cops there and they cant leave.
This is not ambulance taking respinsibility. Bosses have let this go on too much
 
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