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What's said and what actually happens are two different things, every manager we've had has praised the players when they first take control, takes a little while for the penny to drop, usually when the players think it's safe to revert back to their comfort zone, where is Cats now and why?
Catts is injured, its an occupational hazard of a footballer. You please tell me why he's injured. Facts only please.

What Di Canio said should be taken with a pinch of salt, he's utterly mental and a complete gobshite.

Paolo Di Canio said:
Altidore is one of the best strikers in europe
 
Laughably defensive, eh? So all those clean sheets count for nothing? It's clear that we are not picking up more wins because of our poor attacking play, defensively we have been solid, calling it laughable is pretty harsh. That's been our strength (see: only team to keep out Chelsea, clean sheet at Anfield and several more clean sheets away from home). It's the lack of a goalscorer that's holding us back. We need Defoe to be the answer to that, I have no criticisms of how we defend generally apart from a misgiving about how deep we tend to drop back. It's not hard to see that we need to attack in a more effective way, but saying that the defensive tactics have got us nothing is silly. We are out of the bottom 3 largely because of our good defence.

I don't have a problem with us setting up defensively against Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City etc, setting up defensively against the likes of Hull, Villa and Burnley though is another matter entirely. I don't even think the lack of a goalscorer has been our biggest problem this season in terms of going forward, it's a complete lack of creativity in midfield. The lack of chances handed to Giaccherini and Alvarez have been mystifying really and even when they have been played they've usually been played out of position on the wing, there's absolutely no way that they could offer less than Gomez, Bridcutt and Rodwell have done in the centre of midfield.

Said it on another thread last night but the Man United game earlier this season rather aptly summed up what was to come this season. They were absolutely dreadful on the day and were clearly lacking in confidence yet we showed absolutely no intent to win the game
 
:lol: This awld chestnut.




Absolute nonsense.



Whey exactly man.

Some of the players that stood accused of this, last season especially, have been by far and away our best performers under Poyet, and they continue to be.

It was not the fault of John O'Shea, Seb Larsson, Lee Cattermole or Adam Johnson that we couldn't win on Saturday. We did not fail to win that game for lack of effort.

Bardo was one of the worst for it and he's gone.
I'm sure if you do a little search, you'll find the article where Keane had a go at Quinn for saying this.

Catts is injured, its an occupational hazard of a footballer. You please tell me why he's injured. Facts only please
What type of injury is it?
 
and those players are often our better players. The turnover of shit summer on summer doesn;t help.
Correct.

Various decent enough keepers, O'Shea, Brown when fit, Larsson, Cattermole when fit, Johnson. That's been the makings of a decent side the past few seasons. It's what we've had around them that hasn't always been up to scratch. The squad's weak as piss as has been for donkeys. Christ we've never even had a proper full back 'til this year.

We've had squadfuls of Gardners and Gomezs, Vaughans, Buckleys, Bridcutts, Cabrals, Roberges, Diakite's, and we've peppered it with a few half decent loanees that come and go in the blink of an eye.

Get a full strength 11 out and we might give somebody a game. If we can't we're papering over cracks.
 
I don't have a problem with us setting up defensively against Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City etc, setting up defensively against the likes of Hull, Villa and Burnley though is another matter entirely. I don't even think the lack of a goalscorer has been our biggest problem this season in terms of going forward, it's a complete lack of creativity in midfield. The lack of chances handed to Giaccherini and Alvarez have been mystifying really and even when they have been played they've usually been played out of position on the wing, there's absolutely no way that they could offer less than Gomez, Bridcutt and Rodwell have done in the centre of midfield.

Said it on another thread last night but the Man United game earlier this season rather aptly summed up what was to come this season. They were absolutely dreadful on the day and were clearly lacking in confidence yet we showed absolutely no intent to win the game

Creativity is a problem but by far the biggest problem is a lack of goalscorer. Do you think we'd be in the same position if we had a 13 goal striker like Austin for QPR? They're below us and their striker has scored 13 goals! And they haven't even got an away point. We've sorted out our defence and other areas, they haven't. They're relying on the Austin's goals and so far our team is ahead of them despite having no real goalscorer. Pop a real goalscorer like Austin into our side and we are not even close to QPR. If we'd had that striker with, say, about 10 plus goals right now, we'd be closer to top 10. I'm telling you, that is THE biggest problem. QPR really don't create a bucket load. Yet they have a man in form who puts them away. It's crucial.
 
Ha'way old bean what injury has he got and how did he get it and why.

You're the one who knows.
Chasing play, it's what he normally does, after the odd great game, he turns in a behind the pace game, Hull last season springs to mind, it's a knee injury by the way.
 
I'm sure if you do a little search, you'll find the article where Keane had a go at Quinn for saying this.

What type of injury is it?
I was replying more to you saying PDC was spot on.

I'm not sure what you're even getting at with regards to Keane - the squad's completely different. Bardsley was the last of his players. Admittedly, he is one that I believe did have a questionable attitude.

Cattermole has a groin injury, and groin injuries are a twat. My mate did his. Seemed innocuous enough, but he was out months.

Chasing play, it's what he normally does, after the odd great game, he turns in a behind the pace game, Hull last season springs to mind, it's a knee injury by the way.
Errr, it's a groin injury.

http://www.safc.com/news/team-news/2015/january/gus-poyet-on-midfield-trio
 
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Chasing play, it's what he normally does, after the odd great game, he turns in a behind the pace game, Hull last season springs to mind, it's a knee injury by the way.
Yes and he got that in training. His original injury was a groin injury. Sorry for thinking you're talking shite. You mean a footballer doesn't play well all the time? well fuck me bandy.
 
Yes and he got that in training. His original injury was a groin injury. Sorry for thinking you're talking shite. You mean a footballer doesn't play well all the time? well fuck me bandy.
There's a little bit of a pattern with our Lee though, isn't there, every seasons the same, don't get me wrong, when he's good he's good, trouble is, it's nowhere near consistent, still, in years to come and your a little bit older and your scratching your head wondering how the hell things are identical to what they are now and another new manager has gone, don't think it might be what goes on behind the scenes, just blame the manager and we can all carry on as usual.
 
There's a little bit of a pattern with our Lee though, isn't there, every seasons the same, don't get me wrong, when he's good he's good, trouble is, it's nowhere near consistent, still, in years to come and your a little bit older and your scratching your head wondering how the hell things are identical to what they are now and another new manager has gone, don't think it might be what goes on behind the scenes, just blame the manager and we can all carry on as usual.
:lol: Holy Moly.

Ha'way then spread your vast and experienced knowledge on how he picked up this injury, also the one you didn't know about which kept him out originally.
 
Larsson and O'Shea were the other two.

Over the years we've weakened the squad. We've lost Henderson, Bent, Gyan, Sessegnon, Mignolet and haven't reinvested the money wisely.

Poyet took over a poor weakened squad. He has to strip the squad and build again. It's going to take a season or two.

The same John O'Shea who was praised by Alex Ferguson for being one of the best professionals he's ever worked with?
 
Personally I think that's bollocks. You need to sign quality. Quinny was hung up on it anarl.

Talent is ten a penny. What makes players quality is application plus talent. Good characters will encourage, cajole and even downright bully application out of talented players. What we need on the pitch is an arse kicker. Not whinging Seb and O'Shea, and not red mist Cattermole. Look at how well Cattermole played when he had Cana alongside him - not a quality player, but a leader of men and no mistake. The best teams practically snarl at each other all game until it's won, the ones less talented than ours do as well if not better because they're motivating each other to use everything they've got.
 
Personally I think that's bollocks. You need to sign quality. Quinny was hung up on it anarl.
A big part of why we are where we are is the SNQ character bollocks. He was far too busy trying to recreate the atmosphere of the Reid era dressing room. He should have been concentrating on improving our quality.
 
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