Play off games v Average attendances


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Every single excuse I've heard for not going is a load of nonsense, if the game was against the mags at 7.45 on a Saturday night at even 40 quid a ticket it would have sold out long ago regardless of time price or any other rubbish.
If it was on at 0345 the stadium would be full as you say some of the excuses for not gan is pathetic

Bet the ones not gan tonight will still want a Wembley ticket though
 
Every single excuse I've heard for not going is a load of nonsense, if the game was against the mags at 7.45 on a Saturday night at even 40 quid a ticket it would have sold out long ago regardless of time price or any other rubbish.
I’m sure if it was against Barcelona in a champions league semi final it would sell out to, but it isn’t
 
Where did anybody say that? A club that averages 32,000 and then manages just 26,000 for the biggest game of the season is plastic support of the highest order. The year Leeds were in league 1 for the first time they average 26,000 and increased that 10,000 for the play offs.....If their support had matched ours for this game the would have had under 20,000.

As for the mismanagement point, do you think we were managed worse than Leeds who had to go into admin after previously playing in a Champions league semi final?
Surely plastic supporters only turn out for the big games.
Also who were Leeds playing that day and how many away fans went(5,6,7,8k)?
Also fuck off you utter spunktrumpet.
 
It's disappointing to me because the Shef United play off match still ranks as the best atmosphere I've been part of. It was my first session going to games and there was no excuses for not going thrown about from fans, everyone was desperate to go and the crowd absolutely had an effect on the game that night.

A half empty stadium means the chance to replicate that night is gone and it's a real shame. How 15K can think spending 10 times as much for the Checkatrade is more important than spending the £20 to go tonight is beyond me. I have huge sympathy for those that genuinely can't go for monetary reasons as I've been there before but the evidence suggests that's not the reason for the majority that aren't going. If it was a money issue then we wouldn't have brought so many to Wembley for a 2 day piss up,
 
It's all about fans expectations and disappointment, It was clear at the beginning of the season some fans thought we would only need to turn up to win a game and 'Pissing this League' would be easy..As the seasons gone on those fans have become more and more disillusioned and frustrated as their early expectations disintegrated as reality kicked in. They now have convinced themselves that we can't win so why should they bother.

Portsmouth are a good team but far from being unbeatable and I just hope our players believe their can win the game(s) as if their didn't what's the point...
 
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Mate, your not the type of fan he's having a go at here, so not sure why you've got so defensive tbh. We had 42k at the league game against the same side literally a couple weeks ago and will be over 15k down for a play off game. He's right, it's pretty shit, although him getting worked up isn't going to change that. Some like yourself aren't local etc, so can't get there, that's fair enough and we all know many of those spend fortunes and many hours travelling around supporting SAFC. But 15k drop? All of those can't have that reason.
 
I agree with the OP, shameful and embarrassing IMO. Coupled with a lot of the shit I’ve read on here over the past couple of weeks criticising the owners.

Some people on here don’t deserve good owners.
 
2017-2018

Championship


Fulham average 19,896 Play offs 23,529 percentage +/- +18.4%

Smogs average 25,528 Play offs 29,233 Percentage +/- +14.5%

Villa average 32, 235 Play offs 40,505 Percentage +/- +25.65%

Derby average 27,175 Play offs 27,163 Percentage +/- -0.1%


League 1

Charlton average 11,846 Play offs 14,367 Percentage +/- +21.2%

Shrewsbury average 6,249 Play offs 9,016 Percentage +/- +44.2%

Rotherham average 8514 Play offs 11,061 Percentage +/- +29.9%

Scunthorpe average 4364 Play offs 6591 Percentage +/- +51%



Sunderland average 32,157 Play offs? Percentage +/1 ?


Chucking some figures about then

Attendance tomorrow 28,000 14.8% less than average league gate

Attendance tomorrow 27,000 19.1 % less than average league gate

Attendance tomorrow 26,000 23.6% below average league gate


In short our "fans" failure to support their team in the play off semi finals is unprecedented in the play offs. Virtually every clubs fans support their team in much bigger numbers during the play offs and SAFC, the "best fans in the land" will see a huge percentage drop that is unrivalled for its plasticness in play off history.

And who says we never win owt.

Canny good post that like.. An eye opener to say the least. Just shows how on this occasion the support is quite poor for a game that's more important than any other this season. I can't understand it mesel, always had this impression that when it came to big games, our fans were up for it massively.

Not going mesel as I'm on holiday, I purchased me season ticket seat and give the ticket to me cousin.
 
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Another thread begging for likes from the OP. Thinks it's Facebook.

Should just focus on ones that are going and move onto creating a good atmosphere. It shows a lot of people are fed up by the way we've played. You can see the lack of buzz about this game anywhere you look.
 
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I agree with the OP, shameful and embarrassing IMO. Coupled with a lot of the shit I’ve read on here over the past couple of weeks criticising the owners.

Some people on here don’t deserve good owners.

Some of those, on here, declaring they're not going probably never go anyway tbh.

But there are some people with understandable reasons for not going imo, not least the fact that the match is, in one way, meaningless. There'll be little sense of excitement, even with a 2/3-0 scoreline, because its only 'half time'.

We also know Portsmouth will attempt to bore everyone to death with their time wasting from the start plus all the diving and cheating ... most of us are sick of the sight of them by now.

If this had been the second leg, against Charlton, there'd have been another 7/8000 there imo.

Whatever the case I can't find a League One crowd, of this size, shameful ...
... let's concentrate on those who are going, not those who aren't.

I doubt the TV commentators will find the size of the crowd embarrassing.
 
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I have posted elsewhere on this but, to repeat myself, I never thought Sunderland fans would be entitled. People seem to be thinking ‘we should have gone up because we’re Sunderland but we didn’t so I’m not going’. That’s not supporting your team. It’s pathetic. I never thought I’d see Sunderland fans with that attitude and whether they recognise it or admit it that’s exactly what many are doing.

As for those saying it’s not worth going because it’s a first leg, has everyone who ever went to a first leg been wasting their time supporting their team then? Has the support of those that went to first legs when their team won overall not been worth it? That, those of you thinking it, is the most ridiculous, half-hearted and defeatist excuse of all.
 
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I don't think its the cost that's putting folk off - its the fact that we have royally fucked up an automatic spot by repeatedly conceding late costly goals against sides who are not even in the playoffs. Remember, a point against Coventry, 2 extra points at Peterborough, 3 points at Fleetwood and a point at Southend would have seen us in 2nd place. If we cant hold onto leads against bottom-half sides, then how can anyone be optimistic of us beating a side who have the hex on us this season for the chance to face a side at Wembley who are on a great run and beat us there last time we met them in a final.

Every omen and stat is saying to me we'll bottle it against either Pompey or Charlton.

Every single excuse I've heard for not going is a load of nonsense

Some people do actually have lives away from SAFC. Perhaps you should try getting one sometime?
 
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It is pretty shit like. Especially when you consider how everyone felt they deserved a ticket to Wembley and you know they will do again if we get to the final.

I know a few people who can’t get there. A few of us are away and a couple others are exiles can’t justify a night away. Hoping that a lot of the no shows are in our position and not just sacking it off.

The purchase history thing has confused things as well I reckon. A few people on Twitter struggling to get tickets. The fact there won’t be any cash turnstiles will hit us too.

That said it’ll probably work in our favour tbf. We choked in front of big crowds so far this season.
 
I have posted elsewhere on this but, to repeat myself, I never thought Sunderland fans would be entitled. People seem to be thinking ‘we should have gone up because we’re Sunderland but we didn’t so I’m not going’. That’s not supporting your team. It’s pathetic. I never thought I’d see Sunderland fans with that attitude and whether they recognise it or admit it that’s exactly what many are doing.

Wrong. We finished fifth in a one horse race. It’s got nowt to do with being Sunderland, if Man Utd had been in this division in similar circumstances then they should’ve walked it as well. Ditto Liverpool etc.

Biggest wage bill.
Biggest income.
Biggest average crowd by summit like 10,000.
Bigger transfer spend than the rest of the division put together.

The manager and players have had to go some to throw away an advantage like that. All they had to do was get safc punching its weight and we would’ve been up by easter and won at Wembley. Luton and Barnsley have been coached and managed properly and they’ve done the job that I doubt many of their fans thought they could. They’ve overperformed whereas safc have underperformed. Fans are entitled to ask why. I’m sure Stewart Nd Charlie will be. JR knows we’ve not done as well as we should’ve and I’m sure the players do anarl. If they don’t then they’re not the players for this club.

It’s nowt to do with being Sunderland. ANY club with that many built in advantages in any division should triumph simply by everyone doing their jobs properly....
 
Wrong. We finished fifth in a one horse race. It’s got nowt to do with being Sunderland, if Man Utd had been in this division in similar circumstances then they should’ve walked it as well. Ditto Liverpool etc.

Biggest wage bill.
Biggest income.
Biggest average crowd by summit like 10,000.
Bigger transfer spend than the rest of the division put together.

The manager and players have had to go some to throw away an advantage like that. All they had to do was get safc punching its weight and we would’ve been up by easter and won at Wembley. Luton and Barnsley have been coached and managed properly and they’ve done the job that I doubt many of their fans thought they could. They’ve overperformed whereas safc have underperformed. Fans are entitled to ask why. I’m sure Stewart Nd Charlie will be. JR knows we’ve not done as well as we should’ve and I’m sure the players do anarl. If they don’t then they’re not the players for this club.

It’s nowt to do with being Sunderland. ANY club with that many built in advantages in any division should triumph simply by everyone doing their jobs properly....
Wrong. Entitled.
 
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