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Some people are driven. Some are perfectionists. Others might have OCD. I personally think anyone who achieves at the highest level at a sport probably has those traits but they may not qualify for a clinical diagnosis of OCD.
Ya right there Ray.
 
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Not difficult ...... give over man, we'd only beaten 1 of those teams under MON that season and it was his team.

He'd managed 2 points from the 7 games prior to being sacked ...... during that period we were thrashed by QPR who were virtually relegated when we played them.

We also lost to another team who went down, Reading, with another dreadful performance.

Sunderland, during that period, dropped 5 places to 16th with 2 away games at Chelsea & Newcastle to play next.

That's 2 points from a possible 21, all vital games ... di Canio managed 8 in the same period.

We narrowly lost his first game away to Chelsea and also the last of the season, away to Spurs, in a meaningless match as we were already safe.
Yeah 8 points sorry, I was mistaken. I still don't think it's that impressive mind. Every manager since that has had those fixtures has taken more than 8 points (except Moyes).
 
Can't remember O'Neil going on the pitch with Irish music blaring and celebrating with all 4 corners of ground after a win mind.
Di canio is revered at West Ham as a player, they'd sharp get fed up with him if manager. Same with Bilic and he's actually done a good job.

I never said he did. I said that MON got criticized as he was getting all the credit instead of the players. It was all about MON in the media.

I also said that PDC when he came here got the lambasting he got in the media and even a union up here. Yet when he returned to WHU he was a hero by the same media. If your a fascist pig to the media as an SAFC manager then surely you are still a fascist pig to that same media 2 years later. If not why not.
 
I never said he did. I said that MON got criticized as he was getting all the credit instead of the players. It was all about MON in the media.

I also said that PDC when he came here got the lambasting he got in the media and even a union up here. Yet when he returned to WHU he was a hero by the same media. If your a fascist pig to the media as an SAFC manager then surely you are still a fascist pig to that same media 2 years later. If not why not.
I don't think O'Neil seeked the limelight and plaudits in the way PDC did though. It was all about him, until it went wrong of course.
If PDC went into West Ham as manager I'm sure his political leanings would come under the microscope again.
 
I never said he did. I said that MON got criticized as he was getting all the credit instead of the players. It was all about MON in the media.

I also said that PDC when he came here got the lambasting he got in the media and even a union up here. Yet when he returned to WHU he was a hero by the same media. If your a fascist pig to the media as an SAFC manager then surely you are still a fascist pig to that same media 2 years later. If not why not.
Did he?
 
Di Canio went onto the pitch, particularly at away games, because he had a connection with the supporters ..... still does by the look of it.

Win or lose it didn't matter to him, he wasn't after the limelight imo.

I, for one, wish we had that passion here now rather than the achingly dreary Moyes turning his back and trudging down the tunnel.

If we'd been relegated under di Canio he wouldn't have just scurried away, that's for certain.

I think some Sunderland supporters are just scared of a bit of passion and prefer dreary methodical pragmatism ....... poor wives ;)
 
Di Canio went onto the pitch, particularly at away games, because he had a connection with the supporters ..... still does by the look of it.

Win or lose it didn't matter to him, he wasn't after the limelight imo.

I, for one, wish we had that passion here now rather than the achingly dreary Moyes turning his back and trudging down the tunnel.

If we'd been relegated under di Canio he wouldn't have just scurried away, that's for certain.

I think some Sunderland supporters are just scared of a bit of passion and prefer dreary methodical pragmatism ....... poor wives ;)
I agree on your take on Di Canio. I think he was putting his hands out to the supporters knowing how they felt instead of skulking down the tunnel with the players and not facing up to the criticism from supporters.
 
Di Canio went onto the pitch, particularly at away games, because he had a connection with the supporters ..... still does by the look of it.

Win or lose it didn't matter to him, he wasn't after the limelight imo.

I, for one, wish we had that passion here now rather than the achingly dreary Moyes turning his back and trudging down the tunnel.

If we'd been relegated under di Canio he wouldn't have just scurried away, that's for certain.

I think some Sunderland supporters are just scared of a bit of passion and prefer dreary methodical pragmatism ....... poor wives ;)
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It was all about him imo and only about him
 
I agree on your take on Di Canio. I think he was putting his hands out to the supporters knowing how they felt instead of skulking down the tunnel with the players and not facing up to the criticism from supporters.

At the moment, the club's 'connection' with the supporters is zero.

Di Canio always praised the players and went round the pitch to pat each one on the back to emhasise that.

The players were unable to make that connection with the supporters which has brought us to this current state of apathy and derision,

Shame ...
 
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It was all about him imo and only about him

You seem to have that opinion set in concrete so I won't bother trying to reason with you.

I can happily admit his mistakes etc.

West Brom away said everything for me, he accepted all the criticism personally ...... I agree that was all about him.
 
You seem to have that opinion set in concrete so I won't bother trying to reason with you.

I can happily admit his mistakes etc.

West Brom away said everything for me, he accepted all the criticism personally ...... I agree that was all about him.
A manager holding his arms out and telling the fans to get their chins up isn't accepting anything imo.
 
A manager holding his arms out and telling the fans to get their chins up isn't accepting anything imo.

As I've said, you obviously have an opinion that you're very happy with ...... I'll leave it at that.
 
Di Canio went onto the pitch, particularly at away games, because he had a connection with the supporters ..... still does by the look of it.

Win or lose it didn't matter to him, he wasn't after the limelight imo.

I, for one, wish we had that passion here now rather than the achingly dreary Moyes turning his back and trudging down the tunnel.

If we'd been relegated under di Canio he wouldn't have just scurried away, that's for certain.

I think some Sunderland supporters are just scared of a bit of passion and prefer dreary methodical pragmatism ....... poor wives ;)

You're probably right mate. The Swindon fan who posts on here talked about how he tried to link the club into the local community. One of his complaints about a couple of our players was based on them refusing to climb a few stairs to interact with fans.
 
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