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People were questioning big sam before he even signed a player.

Peter reid took this club down and came back with the best team I have seen in my lifetime and gave me some of the greatest memories I have.
Nowadays Reid would have been sacked before he had the chance to come back with quinny, phillips and co.

Fuck the lot of yas

Put your tampon back in hinny!
 
I just want a clued up manager, I'm not expecting Mourinho or Guardiola to walk into the club, but this useless knacker we have at the moment is an absolute disgrace. Dull, negative, tactically inept and generally just shit. His recent record speaks for itself, it's pathetic. He's won 14 of his last 54 games as a manager, losing over 50% of them.

'Tactically inept'. A player for 19 years and over 500 games. Took his coaching badges at the age of 22. A manager for 17 years. Won promotion with Preston. Took Everton from perpetual relegation strugglers to regular European football and top six finishes. Manager of the year 3 times according to his peers. Former manager of Manchester United. Has managed in La Liga. Has managed teams in 854 matches, the vast majority of which have been at the very top level.

And someone posting on an internet message board reckons that when it comes to tactics, he is 'inept'. :lol:
 
'Tactically inept'. A player for 19 years and over 500 games. Took his coaching badges at the age of 22. A manager for 17 years. Won promotion with Preston. Took Everton from perpetual relegation strugglers to regular European football and top six finishes. Manager of the year 3 times according to his peers. Former manager of Manchester United. Has managed in La Liga. Has managed teams in 854 matches, the vast majority of which have been at the very top level.

And someone posting on an internet message board reckons that when it comes to tactics, he is 'inept'. :lol:

Some of the worst tactical substitutions i've ever seen from a SAFC manager in the 38 years i've been going to support Sunderland.
 
People were questioning big sam before he even signed a player.

Peter reid took this club down and came back with the best team I have seen in my lifetime and gave me some of the greatest memories I have.
Nowadays Reid would have been sacked before he had the chance to come back with quinny, phillips and co.

Fuck the lot of yas

Bollocks that like. Reid got us up originally with a poor team, and we were very unlucky to go down.

The huge difference is the players played for Reid during that relegation season, and we were able to build a strong side to have a go at the championship.

We never had a run like this. Moyes is ripping the heart and soul out of the club. Reid, for a time, was the heart and soul of the club.
 
'Tactically inept'. A player for 19 years and over 500 games. Took his coaching badges at the age of 22. A manager for 17 years. Won promotion with Preston. Took Everton from perpetual relegation strugglers to regular European football and top six finishes. Manager of the year 3 times according to his peers. Former manager of Manchester United. Has managed in La Liga. Has managed teams in 854 matches, the vast majority of which have been at the very top level.

And someone posting on an internet message board reckons that when it comes to tactics, he is 'inept'. :lol:

Doesn't matter how many qualifications you have. His tactics have been atrocious and pathetic.

On the evidence you've seen this season, how would you describe his tactics? Poor? Mediocre? Good? Excellent?
 
Doesn't matter how many qualifications you have. His tactics have been atrocious and pathetic.

On the evidence you've seen this season, how would you describe his tactics? Poor? Mediocre? Good? Excellent?

I've no idea. It depends what 'tactics' you are referring to.

'Tactically inept' is just a meaningless phrase that people trot out when their team is losing matches.

It won't be long before the same people trot out 'No Plan B', 'lost the dressing room', 'wrong substitutions', 'right man at the wrong time', etc, etc.

If GordonMuchallNo1Fan can enlighten us with the specific examples of tactical ineptitude he has spotted, then great.
 
He's got to go, and go now. We have a small chance of staying up if we get shot of him, absolutely zero if he stays.

He's the wrong type of person to be the manager of SAFC. No personality, dour and negative.

His tactics are non existent and his signings have been atrocious. The injuries we have now are no coincidence either.

He took over a team that had confidence from a good, long, solid run of form. We didn't have to break up that team, but he decided to.

He has been a total, unmitigated disaster, and must be be removed ASAP.
I agree with the post about having the soul sucked out of me over recent years - I actually bought a season ticket this year thinking we might turn a corner wit allardyce but that ended up being another kick in the bollocks.

So I haven't even bothered following tonight's game or the last couple of league games.

But, if I could stump up the energy to say anything and there's still any fight left in the club then your post is the right direction (and f***ing obvious)
 
TBH I didn't think we were that bad, N'Dong and Rodwell aside. We were the better side and they had one (great) shot on target. Papy was excellent.

Rodwell made a few cracking passes......real defence splitting passes, but the recipient on every occasion showed a complete lack of technique to make the most of them. He skyed a couple of shots but overall he was our best CM by a distance.
 
This absolutely.

The goal tonight was scored by a player who would've been our record signing by some margin, I doubt many on this board had heard of him beforehand. We simply aren't capable of competing in the premier league at the moment, hounding the manager out won't change that.
BY SOME MARGIN
are you for real ??
the bloke cost less than 2.5m more than truffle head ??
the manager deserves sacking for spunking nearly 14m on him alone!!!
 
I've no idea. It depends what 'tactics' you are referring to.

'Tactically inept' is just a meaningless phrase that people trot out when their team is losing matches.

It won't be long before the same people trot out 'No Plan B', 'lost the dressing room', 'wrong substitutions', 'right man at the wrong time', etc, etc.

If GordonMuchallNo1Fan can enlighten us with the specific examples of tactical ineptitude he has spotted, then great.


I agree it's a cliche, but the sentiment isn't far off IMO. He's been absolutely woeful tactically - the substitutions on Saturday are just one example of where he's falling down.

I was listening to 606 on Saturday and Stan Collymore commented that he'd listened to Moyes doing punditry over the summer, and felt he sounded like someone who was out of touch with modern football.

Now, Collymore's a gobshite who's never been in charge of a team, however based on what we've seen so far he's not wrong.

This spell really reminds me of when Wilkinson was in charge. Players look devoid of ideas, manager is floundering.

If Moyes didn't have a track record he'd have been gone weeks ago. As it is, we're clinging to a hope he can repeat something he did at Everton, but that was a decade ago.
 
I agree it's a cliche, but the sentiment isn't far off IMO. He's been absolutely woeful tactically - the substitutions on Saturday are just one example of where he's falling down.

I was listening to 606 on Saturday and Stan Collymore commented that he'd listened to Moyes doing punditry over the summer, and felt he sounded like someone who was out of touch with modern football.

Now, Collymore's a gobshite who's never been in charge of a team, however based on what we've seen so far he's not wrong.

This spell really reminds me of when Wilkinson was in charge. Players look devoid of ideas, manager is floundering.

If Moyes didn't have a track record he'd have been gone weeks ago. As it is, we're clinging to a hope he can repeat something he did at Everton, but that was a decade ago.

But he left Everton three years ago, at which point they were in the top 6, after a season in which his biggest signing was £6m, and he had no net spend whatsoever. The season before that they finished 7th, when his biggest signing was £5.5m, and his net spend was minus £16m. He didn't just do it at Everton a decade ago, he continued, year in, year out, for a decade, to overachieve and keep hitting the top six with a side that rarely spent.

That's very different to Wilkinson, who had been out of management completely for a decade before he got here.
 
The bloke is clueless, I don't want us to keep chopping and changing manager but until we appoint the right one then we will have to. Allardyce was the right one, Moyes isn't, its time for the owner to admit defeat and sack this clown
 
Totally agree, I question the sanity of anyone who wants Moyes

Its not that we are getting beat, its the decision and his logic
 
But he left Everton three years ago, at which point they were in the top 6, after a season in which his biggest signing was £6m, and he had no net spend whatsoever. The season before that they finished 7th, when his biggest signing was £5.5m, and his net spend was minus £16m. He didn't just do it at Everton a decade ago, he continued, year in, year out, for a decade, to overachieve and keep hitting the top six with a side that rarely spent.

That's very different to Wilkinson, who had been out of management completely for a decade before he got here.

The current situation at SAFC is very much the same as Wilkinson's time in charge, not their backgrounds. It literally is hopeless, and I've not felt like that since Wilkinson was here.

Moyes did a great job overall at Everton, no denying that. He did a cracking job building the side initially, however I have a few friends who are Everton ST holders, and they were often frustrated with Moyes and were pretty happy when he left. They were sick of the media rhetoric around them over achieving and how they should be happy with what they've got.

Unfortunately for us, he's just not cutting it - there's no signs of encouragement, no positivity, nothing. It's horrendous, and will continue to be so until he leaves.
 
The bloke is clueless, I don't want us to keep chopping and changing manager but until we appoint the right one then we will have to. Allardyce was the right one, Moyes isn't, its time for the owner to admit defeat and sack this clown

Look at the injury list man. He needs a chance with a fully fit squad. Once we've got two or three defensive midfielders back we'll be scoring goals for fun
 
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