Parkys previous League 1 promotions

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I’m not saying to sack him just looking at his success in the league it has been defensive and low scoring with abit of luck on the points total. People are expecting us to blast through teams because we’re creating chances in 1-0s against Crewe but it’s going to be a tight season imo.

We’ve made our bed at this point imo and could only see some horrific appointment like Richard Hill if we sacked Parkinson.

I think the likelihood is that a lot of our games will be close, I don't see us hammering many teams. Though it's interesting that as well as having the best defensive record in terms of goals succeeded and conceding fewer goal scoring chances, we're also creating more chances than most of the league and should be scoring more. In terms of our 7 games so far, we've created more goal scoring chances than our opposition in 6 of them according to XG stats.
 
I think our problem under Parkinson is that his style only works against the mid to lower end league one teams. Those going for the play offs have too much for us playing this way I believe. What is the answer, well I am no Parkinson fan or his style of football, however I don’t see us in a position to improve on this getting rid of the manager as we don’t have the players,,,,,,,,,,unless we bring some of the young lads through.
I think that we do have the players - it's the (lack of) leadership, strategy and tactical awareness of PP that is the problem.
 
Not so much the points but I personally would have only considered someone with an attacking mentality and a reputation for developing young players.
But would they come?
Look at the squad PP inherited. There was no way the owner was going to spend last summer as he had shot his bolt with Grigg. Though I do agree PP needs to start giving the likes of Diamond and Kimpioka a chance or if not at least have the balls to admit he has no interest in bringing youth into the team and let these kids continue their career where they can develop
 
As much I don't really like Parky now's definitely not the time to sack him, we've got 3 games in the next 9 days and we really don't need the changing of a manager inbetween them especially the one in 9 days which is one of the biggest games of the season against Ipswich. That's the time if any he should go since there's a 10 day gap after.
 
Fans just weren't aware of him, which is why he wasn't 'wanted.' The reaction was largely surprise, not disappointment.

I've no idea why you try to be deliberately contrary for reactions. Did you poll sunderland fans to determine of they were surprised or disappointed? I've never spoken to a single fan that was anything other than disappointed with his appointment.
 
I think the likelihood is that a lot of our games will be close, I don't see us hammering many teams. Though it's interesting that as well as having the best defensive record in terms of goals succeeded and conceding fewer goal scoring chances, we're also creating more chances than most of the league and should be scoring more. In terms of our 7 games so far, we've created more goal scoring chances than our opposition in 6 of them according to XG stats.

Yeah I mean we seem to do alright creating chances once the stalemate is broken in the game but in the first half of games we are very passive and cautious imo.
But would they come?
Look at the squad PP inherited. There was no way the owner was going to spend last summer as he had shot his bolt with Grigg. Though I do agree PP needs to start giving the likes of Diamond and Kimpioka a chance or if not at least have the balls to admit he has no interest in bringing youth into the team and let these kids continue their career where they can develop
No idea. Would be interesting to see who applied/wanted it. I don’t think Donald got his management choices right down at Eastleigh too and he had Richard Hill in managing afew times iirc.
 
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18/19 - 94,91
17/18 - 98,96
16/17 - 100, 86 (Parkys Bolton)
15/16 - 87, 85
14/15 - 99, 91
13/14 - 103, 94
12/13 - 84, 83
11/12 - 101, 93
10/11 - 95, 92
09/10 - 95, 86
08/09 - 96, 89
That's only 11 years. 4 years before that:

07/08 - 92. 82
06/07 - 91, 85
05/06 - 82, 79 (The Colchester seasaon)
04/05 - 98, 86 (worse GD than Bolton year)

So in 15 seasons prior (excluding 19/20 cut short) Parkinson's Bolton team would have been promoted in 6 other seasons, so good enough in total for 7 out of 15 seasons. GD preventing that form being 8. In theory good enough to get promoted half of the time if he has a Bolton year. With a Colchester year, well it's the only sub 80 points total on there so very unlikely to get promoted with 79 again.

However it seems the points needed in increasing on average over time with the 6 90+ second point totals coming in the last 9 seasons, and 90 points would have bee enough to win the league in 2 of the 3 years second place didn't get 90 in those 9.
 
Fans just weren't aware of him, which is why he wasn't 'wanted.' The reaction was largely surprise, not disappointment.
TBF I remember a lot of fans being disappointed because there was a feeling that the owner should appoint a manager who played front foot attack minded football after sacking Ross and everyone knew we were getting the opposite in PP. Personally I'm giving him a chance but unfortunately for him so many fans were disappointed that he was almost fighting a losing battle from the start.
First loss of the season and people saying that we definitely won't get promoted.
Can't remember which poster it was but they said they never wanted him at the club and with that mindset unless he wins every game comfortably he will never be given any credit
 
I've no idea why you try to be deliberately contrary for reactions. Did you poll sunderland fans to determine of they were surprised or disappointed? I've never spoken to a single fan that was anything other than disappointed with his appointment.

Who did they want?
 
Yeah I mean we seem to do alright creating chances once the stalemate is broken in the game but in the first half of games we are very passive and cautious imo.

No idea. Would be interesting to see who applied/wanted it. I don’t think Donald got his management choices right down at Eastleigh too and he had Richard Hill in managing afew times iirc.
I think SKP would have loved it but that would have been a massive gamble. Whilst I would like to see him given a chance here maybe in a few years time when we are established in the Championship or Premier league when he isn't expected to come and get promoted in his first season as a manager. I might be making this up but didn't Ainsworth turn us down along with someone else?
I don't think there was a unanimous choice. The preferred candidates were all seen as more progressive than Parkinson though - Cook, Stendal and Pearson.
Out of those 3 I think there is only Pearson might have come and worked with our owner I think the other 2 would come under different ownership IMHO
 
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Colchester United
Finished 2nd place
Points: 79
GD: +18
GF: 58
GA: 40

In 18/19 good enough for 6th place

Bolton Wanderers
Finished 2nd place
Points: 86
GD: +32
GF: 68
GA: 36

In 18/19 good enough for 5th place

Sunderland AFC 18/19 under Jack Ross
Finished 5th ace
Points: 85
GD: +33
GF: 80
GA: 47

Point here is that Parkinson has never been able to lead to team to hammer a division to secure promotion. His teams simply don’t score the goals and his two automatic promotions have taken advantage of a lower total needed. This is our blueprint for the season and surely is a concern? I’ve included his Bradford promotion that also supports this.

I’ve also included his Bradford City promotion below.

Bradford City
Finished 7th place
Points: 69
GD: +11
GF: 63
GA: 52

Good enough for 11th place in 18/19.
We don't need to hammer a division to get promoted? That's an odd way of interpreting the stats. We are not the club we used to be a few years ago and people are struggling with that adjustment.
 
I think that we do have the players - it's the (lack of) leadership, strategy and tactical awareness of PP that is the problem.
We have a squad capable of taking this league by storm, if only the manager would accept the fact that only having Plan A is not going to work if other teams suss it out. Parky is the ultimate 'no Plan B' character and dynamism is not his hallmark. We should be able to play 3-5-2, 4-4-2, 4 -3-2-1 or whatever according to the opposition, and more importantly, SWITCHING TACTICS DURING A GAME if things are not working, AND making those changes at half-time, or before, not on 75 minutes!
The goalie is a problem. Neither inspires confidence in the rest of the defence. A solid replacement should be the scouts No.1 priority for the window opening in 10 weeks' time.
The back line should be among the best in the division with Willis and Wright first names on the sheet, and Flanagan, Sanderson and later Feeney and one day Xhemajli, all in contention. McLaughlin not so much but OK. McFadzean, who he? Younger and Taylor have a lot of shirts to get past, but surely minutes from the bench and Cup outings are a priority with 2 games a week?
There is a lot of talent in the midfield, but a lot of plodding too. Grant is great at passing forwards so long as he has time (this is one of the things 'sussed' by many managers) but Dobson, Power and to some extent Scowen are all prone to slowing things down. O'Nien and Hume have been among our most consistent players for a while now and should be considered as senior players. One of the young'uns Neil or Embleton alongside these two and one of the holding players should be in the mix in every game.
Looking further forward, we can't continue hoping one of Gooch or Maguire is going to smack in a goal. That is a hope, not a plan. Both are good enough individuals at this level, but nobody produces a match-winning performance every week. Diamond and maybe Kimpioka deserve more of a chance.
Up top, we have the conundrum of four 'strikers', and I for one can't work out how we have ended up with such a barren bunch (Cheap obvs!) Maybe one can strike a vein of form with some impetus coming from behind them.
This is not a gospel of despair. If we had a goalie, a system of rotation and some tactical awareness rather than this cowardly effort, I truly believe we would go up, and maybe with some young'uns who are ready to take the next step with us up that long ramp to the top. Dynamism and Parkinson, sadly do not sit well in the same sentence :evil:.
 
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I don't think there was a unanimous choice. The preferred candidates were all seen as more progressive than Parkinson though - Cook, Stendal and Pearson.

Pearson went to the Premier League a month later, Cook was successfully managing in the Championship and Stendel went on to relegate one of the biggest clubs in Scotland, winning 15% of his league games.

You're always going to be disappointed if your expectations are totally ridiculous.
 
Pearson went to the Premier League a month later, Cook was successfully managing in the Championship and Stendel went on to relegate one of the biggest clubs in Scotland, winning 15% of his league games.

You're always going to be disappointed if your expectations are totally ridiculous.

So you accept that fans were disappointed then? How was it ridiculous to expect Stendal to come to us?
 
Whilst I'm not keen on him generally because his football is slow and boring all of those teams were absolutely shite and he got a tune out of them.

We on the other hand are a team that should be in the top 2 this season.
 
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