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The OP questions the brains of anyone who disagrees with his apocalyptic world view.. Seems to me that he's got a fixed opinion and is not watching carefully.

I've seen most games this season. The only post I have made here was to point out our big issue under Ross was organization. Recently, you can see more structure, but in the last couple of games there has been a big improvement and I think its starting to 'click' You can clearly see more evidence hat the team knows shat to do without the ball and we are picking up more possession and looking more solid.

Would be interesting to see stats on how many chances we have created in the last 3-4 games. I think its quite a lot. Striker is still an issue, and there will be ups and downs, but if we keep playing like this we will steadily go up the table. Historicaly PP has started slowly at clubs but got results in the end.

And no, I'm not his dad...
 
The OP questions the brains of anyone who disagrees with his apocalyptic world view.. Seems to me that he's got a fixed opinion and is not watching carefully.

I've seen most games this season. The only post I have made here was to point out our big issue under Ross was organization. Recently, you can see more structure, but in the last couple of games there has been a big improvement and I think its starting to 'click' You can clearly see more evidence hat the team knows shat to do without the ball and we are picking up more possession and looking more solid.

Would be interesting to see stats on how many chances we have created in the last 3-4 games. I think its quite a lot. Striker is still an issue, and there will be ups and downs, but if we keep playing like this we will steadily go up the table. Historicaly PP has started slowly at clubs but got results in the end.

And no, I'm not his dad...
Loving the use of the word shat
 
i dare anyone to put their hand on their heart and say that they have witnessed an improvement these last couple of games. We're moving in the right direction and i think the silent majority recognise that. Everyone else has to realise this club will never do things the easy way and it's always a rollercoaster, but that's why we love it.
 
AYE 10 weeks is a long time to give a new manager,think we should crowd fund for a gold watch for long service.Ive said on other threads humble pie is waiting for some

How long do you give someone performing so shit like?? If he had been in charge a year would his results be less acceptable?

I’d gladly eat humble pie. I highly doubt I will be though
 
As a footballer Phil Parkinson was a model professional as a footballer playing over 500 games. As a manager he has won promotions with Colchester, Bolton and Bradford and led Bradford to a cup final resulting in him being rewarded with the 'Outstanding Managerial Achievement award' for the season and beat the likes of Chelsea, Villa, Arsenal and Sunderland all top flight sides in cup ties. He is the only manager ever to have beaten a Jose Mourinho Chelsea side after being 2-0 down. He was incredibly dignified in how he handled the crisis at Bolton showing himself to be a fantastic human being. He may not be your choice of manager but what grounds to have to call him 'a f***ing moron'?

His performance and results as our manager so far. Comfortably the worst manager I’ve ever seen us have. The job is far too big for him. Add in him bottling press duties and I class him as a moron
 
So if his results in charge of us so far would be unacceptable had he been in charge a year, why should people cut him some slack?

Completely the wrong appointment. Nothing so far has shown him to be the correct one either

Because he had inherited a team that had just won 6 of its previous 21 games and been hammered off the likes of Lincoln and Peterborough and had a bunch of fat, unfit fucks to work with?
So if his results in charge of us so far would be unacceptable had he been in charge a year, why should people cut him some slack?

Completely the wrong appointment. Nothing so far has shown him to be the correct one either


Explain what he has done that makes him suitable for the job then? Instead of calling people a tit

He wouldn't have been my choice but a reasonable argument that he was a suitable appointment would be:
As a manager he has won promotions with Colchester, Bolton and Bradford and led Bradford to a cup final resulting in him being rewarded with the 'Outstanding Managerial Achievement award' for the season and beat the likes of Chelsea, Villa, Arsenal and Sunderland all top flight sides in cup ties. He is the only manager ever to have beaten a Jose Mourinho Chelsea side after being 2-0 down. He was incredibly dignified in how he handled the crisis at Bolton showing himself to be a fantastic human being.

What he deserves is for supporters to have a brain and to be able to acknowledge we are a basket case of a club that has been frantically cutting costs and that we were on a horrendous run at the time of his appointment. Nothing wrong with not wanting Parkinson but he has forgotten more about football than you will ever know.
 
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A few points from me:

- Parkinson wasn't a popular choice. As a result, he's been on the back foot from day dot with little or no support from the fans;

- He inherited a team in poor form, low on confidence and lacking quality, certainly in the final third;

- There's onviously been issues behind the scenes that he's also had to contend with, consequently McGeady has been transfer listed much to dissatisfaction of many fans, myself included, however I think we can all agree that he has been poor this season when given a chance and particularly poor under Parkinson. Whether that's Parkinson's fault, McGeady's unwillingness to play or something in between, we don't know, but a decision has been made and we have to accept it;

- We've earned 4 points out of the last two games, two games which honestly I expected little from (that's how far we've falled), but we must give credit where credit is due. We outplayed both sides and have looked a lot better than what we have become used to. We battled all game today and were very unfortunate not to get all three points. I felt we were better than Fleetwood all over the park.

To summarise, I don't think now is the time to be getting on Parkinson's back, we may well have turned a corner, I'm desperately hoping we have. A win against Lincoln and a few new signings could put us back in the promotion picture.

This has more or less been my feelings before the recent turn of results, but those results have strengthened them. Sure we could sack him and lets be honest you couldn't really argue he deserved to stay, but I do feel with Gooch back and the performances of the last few games we're back again to a clear picture of how he wants to play, some semblance of a team and they're actually looking capable of playing it. It's more direct, it's got some energy in it, obviously we still lack a few players, some quality, some goals and penetration - but when haven't we this season?

I'd rather he was allowed to bring in a few players to shape the squad in the way he wants to, because I believe it would be more beneficial than sacking him and starting again would be. As we're seeing the different between and success and failure at this level seems to be very close and although I have no faith in the recruitment team at all, if we could just pull off a couple of decent signings it could make a large impact.
 
Because he had inherited a team that had just won 6 of its previous 21 games and been hammered off the likes of Lincoln and Peterborough and had a bunch of fat, unfit fucks to work with?


He wouldn't have been my choice but a reasonable argument that he was a suitable appointment would be:
As a manager he has won promotions with Colchester, Bolton and Bradford and led Bradford to a cup final resulting in him being rewarded with the 'Outstanding Managerial Achievement award' for the season and beat the likes of Chelsea, Villa, Arsenal and Sunderland all top flight sides in cup ties. He is the only manager ever to have beaten a Jose Mourinho Chelsea side after being 2-0 down. He was incredibly dignified in how he handled the crisis at Bolton showing himself to be a fantastic human being.

What he deserves is for supporters to have a brain and to be able to acknowledge we are a basket case of a club that has been frantically cutting costs and that we were on a horrendous run at the time of his appointment. Nothing wrong with not wanting Parkinson but he has forgotten more about football than you will ever know.

He was the completely wrong choice at the time. Next to nobody wanted him so he was on a hiding to nothing from the start. Unless he got off to an absolute flier he was always going to be under huge, huge pressure. He’s made us worse and has proven those concerns that the majority had to be justified.

I did not want him, but have supported his side every time they’ve played. What he had served up has been horrific. The worst football I’ve ever had the misfortune of seeing, with results to match. What he has done in the past 20 years is irrelevant to me, he is simply not the man to take our club forwards. I dread to think of the players he wishes to bring in.
 
A few points from me:

- Parkinson wasn't a popular choice. As a result, he's been on the back foot from day dot with little or no support from the fans;

- He inherited a team in poor form, low on confidence and lacking quality, certainly in the final third;

- There's onviously been issues behind the scenes that he's also had to contend with, consequently McGeady has been transfer listed much to dissatisfaction of many fans, myself included, however I think we can all agree that he has been poor this season when given a chance and particularly poor under Parkinson. Whether that's Parkinson's fault, McGeady's unwillingness to play or something in between, we don't know, but a decision has been made and we have to accept it;

- We've earned 4 points out of the last two games, two games which honestly I expected little from (that's how far we've falled), but we must give credit where credit is due. We outplayed both sides and have looked a lot better than what we have become used to. We battled all game today and were very unfortunate not to get all three points. I felt we were better than Fleetwood all over the park.

To summarise, I don't think now is the time to be getting on Parkinson's back, we may well have turned a corner, I'm desperately hoping we have. A win against Lincoln and a few new signings could put us back in the promotion picture.

I agree with some of what you’re saying but we are nowhere near the promotion talk.

We‘ve put in 2 competitive performances away from home but we started off the season with a decent performance against Portsmouth and Wimbledon, that wasn’t sustained and we ended up going backwards. The performances last 2 games have been no better than those performances. Maybe Parkinson is getting his ideas across now and teams haven’t been able to game plan for it because it’s a fairly new 3-4-3? You’ve got to expect that teams will now be looking at what we’re trying to do in the same we were too easy to play against under Ross after a while.
 
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A few points from me:

- Parkinson wasn't a popular choice. As a result, he's been on the back foot from day dot with little or no support from the fans;

- He inherited a team in poor form, low on confidence and lacking quality, certainly in the final third;

- There's onviously been issues behind the scenes that he's also had to contend with, consequently McGeady has been transfer listed much to dissatisfaction of many fans, myself included, however I think we can all agree that he has been poor this season when given a chance and particularly poor under Parkinson. Whether that's Parkinson's fault, McGeady's unwillingness to play or something in between, we don't know, but a decision has been made and we have to accept it;

- We've earned 4 points out of the last two games, two games which honestly I expected little from (that's how far we've falled), but we must give credit where credit is due. We outplayed both sides and have looked a lot better than what we have become used to. We battled all game today and were very unfortunate not to get all three points. I felt we were better than Fleetwood all over the park.

To summarise, I don't think now is the time to be getting on Parkinson's back, we may well have turned a corner, I'm desperately hoping we have. A win against Lincoln and a few new signings could put us back in the promotion picture.
I agree. After such an unpopular appointment and a disaster of a start, it seems the players are buying into Parkinson's methods, getting maguire in shape says a lot.
Maybe we're on the right track.
 
This has more or less been my feelings before the recent turn of results, but those results have strengthened them. Sure we could sack him and lets be honest you couldn't really argue he deserved to stay, but I do feel with Gooch back and the performances of the last few games we're back again to a clear picture of how he wants to play, some semblance of a team and they're actually looking capable of playing it. It's more direct, it's got some energy in it, obviously we still lack a few players, some quality, some goals and penetration - but when haven't we this season?

I'd rather he was allowed to bring in a few players to shape the squad in the way he wants to, because I believe it would be more beneficial than sacking him and starting again would be. As we're seeing the different between and success and failure at this level seems to be very close and although I have no faith in the recruitment team at all, if we could just pull off a couple of decent signings it could make a large impact.

Broadly agree with that. I was really uncertain a few weeks ago because we looked so bad, almost like our worst days in the Prem. Could kind of deal with that then, but in League 1 it was just awful. Given that, I wasn't sure Parkinson should be given a transfer window, he hadn't really proven he deserved it. But the last three matches, you can see signs of life. Even the Bolton match was an improvement, you could see the plan and the shape, it just wasn't quick enough and lacked the final ball. The last two have built on that. It's not great, but the foundations of success are evident. It's worth riding with him for now to see if it can be sustained.
 
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