BumbleBee
Striker
Ross's main problem was having 2 skinny centre halfs.
Parkinson interview post Bristol rovers at home
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Ross's main problem was having 2 skinny centre halfs.
TravellingMackem
Winger
Except we don’t really do that at all. We get them into a customary fullback overlap. Hardly visionary football.
Main problem was having no organisation to the defence and defensive midfield. Power and Dobson have one job, to not concede goals, and to pass the ball to better players. The three CBs have limited responsibility apart from defending and keeping a shape. This allows the more attacking players like Maguire and Gooch to play football and create, which they will do as both are better than league one level
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BumbleBee
Striker
You're saying you'd be happy with Baldwin and Flanagan at the back then?
Deleted User 11453
Striker
Who are our best attackers in the league?
Gooch and Maguire?
Last season we probably had the best ... maja and mcgeady.
Ironically a team can play better without the better players.
Quinninho
Striker
Have to admit I was one of the 'Careful what you wish for' brigade when a good majority of folks were calling for Ross to be sacked. I said we'd get someone worse - and for those first 6-8 weeks I thought I was correct.
Credit where it's due though he's doing a cracking job at present. Hopefully we can keep the run going and one of the teams above us slips up...
The Coventry game is a strange one. A draw will be a good result for them if the table still stays poised like it is. I hope we are positive on the attack and try to win it though.
Safc_Pelaw
Goalkeeper
A customary full back overlap is 2 players, we have the winger the full back and a centre half, 3 players.
And saying the centre backs have no job but defending and keeping shape is hilarious. Willis has been one of our most important attackers recently With some great wing play between our wide players
KGC83
Striker
Wonder what @tynevalleyblackcat mates cash out is now for us to get relegated?
This bloke is showing Ross up as the complete chancer he was. Keep it up Parkinson.
Jack Ford
Winger
You were one who wanted Parky out before a ball was kicked iirc and were quite voiceferous about it.And of course your views about Ross were plain to see
Whats your take now? Now Im not saying he's a worldbeater
How can you say the CBs have limited responsibility while listing defending, keeping a shape and becoming overlapping full backs? I disagree as well, usually Willis is out there with O'Nien and Maguire. I'm not saying Parky is a visionary but you have to give him credit for utilising almost everyone bar the central defender and midfield 2 as attacking contributors.
Totally agree, you have to mark everyone when we're attacking at the minute. Hume constantly finds himself in space in the box at the far post when we have the ball on the right wing, usually Willis who has it!
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marley's ghost
Winger
Like most others I didn't have confidence P would turn it around but I argued strongly against sacking him at Christmas as there wasn't time for another appointment to find his feet and hit promotion form. It will be interesting to see if we stick with him if we do go up. Realistically he will be given a stab at the Championship should this happen. We may have enough to survive with a few additions but what would fans be satisfied with first season up?
Eric gates hair
Winger
We will get like 1500 tickets ?Rotherham away last game season
Wonder how
Many travel down
Axionknight
Midfield
Every word that he speaks is 100% sense. If we had started the season with him we'd be crusing by now IMO, our shaky start under him was surely him picking up the pieces of the fallout from the previous (and inadequate) management regime
At this level there's surely not many better operators than this chap, he has a plan that he sticks to, he seemingly takes no shit from trouble causing players and the squad fitness has improved no end
Across the board we are a better outfit on the pitch than we ever have been in this league even if we are aren't as high in the league compared this point last season; he's the biz, is PP,
There's more chance of us going up under him than there ever was under Ross
At this level there's surely not many better operators than this chap, he has a plan that he sticks to, he seemingly takes no shit from trouble causing players and the squad fitness has improved no end
Across the board we are a better outfit on the pitch than we ever have been in this league even if we are aren't as high in the league compared this point last season; he's the biz, is PP,
There's more chance of us going up under him than there ever was under Ross
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TravellingMackem
Winger
Thats exactly what the post says..... clearly you can read really well.
The problem wasn’t the personnel, they are all capable league one CBs. The difference is in the organisation and the way they are setup. That doesn’t mean to say I prefer any CBs over others. And for the record, Flanagan is our best defender
They are definitely amongst the best. As were Gooch, McGeady and Maja last season. My point was that if you can keep it tight at the back (which Ross failed to do) then the better attackers will score goals. Don’t need to put on an attacking masterclass as Parkinson’s back to basics tactics are proving
No idea what game you watch. The CB is playing the LB/RB role of just hanging back and offering the out ball and recycling. Think you’re overstating Willis’ importance immeasurably here. This is just how an orthodox 3 at the back works. If you want to see overloads go and check Contes Chelsea or Sheff Utd. You’ll see a massive difference if you checked heat maps for their CBs and ours
I still think he’s not the right man going forward. Look, this division is bloody awful and we should be able to win it without a manager tbh. We have players way beyond some other teams and I said it all last season if we can just keep it tight at the back and concede minimal goals the other teams will find a way to contrive to concede goals, as well as our superior attackers like Gooch and Maguire pulling some goals out of the bag. It isn’t any form of tactical genius going on here, it’s basic stuff for a simple league. Just think about some of the stupid goals we’ve scored so far, we’ve had keepers literally throw the ball in their own goal from corners, we’ve had defenders pass the ball to McGeady on the edge of the box, stupid penalties won in silly positions. Just don’t concede because we invariably with score goals. Parkinson has seen this very simple trend that Ross hasn’t and I’ll give him credit for that, and his defensive coaching must be top notch.
If you want a debate about next season if/when we go up we can have that, don’t really want to hijack the thread, but I don’t think the same simplistic tactical approach (and I mean that in a good way!) will work when we aren’t the best squad in the league anymore. Do I think Parky has something in there to evolve? No, probably not.
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I wanted him gone after the Bolton game based on how shocking we had been and couldn't see him turning it round.
How he has shaped the side, built confidence and and gained the performances and results since then has been fantastic.
Huge amount of credit has to go to him and it was great he acknowledged the crowd with a wave yesterday... let's keep the momentum going with everyone pulling is the same upwards direction.
manamamackem
Striker
Do you honestly think that you can make an accurate assessment of someone after two months. BSA was the same.
i think team spirit can go a long way. as well as looking as though they're enjoying it there seems to be a sense of togetherness and a battling spirit. a settled side is a bonus, they'll get used to playing week in week out knowing where each one will/should be.
WildinHetton
Winger
Would imagine it will be a hell of alot more than that. Thought they gave one whole end up behind a goal. Have seen what appears to be big turn outs at their place by Leeds, Sheff Wed. so don't see why it would different for us.
Wylie Coyote
Striker
We were going backwards at an alarming rate, all im saying is it isnt a surprising the fans reacted like they did. Especially since people said ‘give them time’ over and over for managers like moyes, grayson, coleman and ross who were all not up to it
Also you couldnt even see what parkinson was building towards in those first few months
We were never going down, some supporters always go over the top but its the same the other way. We will of had supporters who thought everything would end up rosey under ross when it was clearly not going to be the case as he relied on individual players far too much
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