Our undisclosed transfer fees


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Deals rarely are upfront. 2 million isn't peanuts to us coming out of League One so I'd guess it would be structured over a season or two...maybe even three.
So what you are saying we havent spent much of this years budget on players then?
 
So what you are saying we havent spent much of this years budget on players then?

I don't know what the budget is for this window, but by paying in installments, it gives the club more room to manoeuvre.

It's a common process in football, every club does it.
 
I don't know what the budget is for this window, but by paying in installments, it gives the club more room to manoeuvre.

It's a common process in football, every club does it.
Budget?
 
I don't know what the budget is for this window, but by paying in installments, it gives the club more room to manoeuvre.

It's a common process in football, every club does it.
Market forces plays a role though. A player in high demand the selling club will demand higher proportion of cash up front.
 
Seems that way yeah. I'm not aware that his CV contained a single line about any role in senior football whatsoever, before we gave him the keys to castle.
I give up. How many actual D of F‘s around actually have ? Look at Ashworth up the road, he was just FA head of technical development before taking up a similar role to Speakman at Brighton. Have you seen his cv like ?
 
I give up. How many actual D of F‘s around actually have ? Look at Ashworth up the road, he was just FA head of technical development before taking up a similar role to Speakman at Brighton. Have you seen his cv like ?

You'd do well to give up. You're now comparing apples and oranges.

The last line of defence for anyone trying to defend what's going on, is to pretend that all of the other clubs which nominally have a "director of football", all operate in exactly the same way. They don't.
The budget was to spend as little as possible as we’ve got fuck all

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Market forces plays a role though. A player in high demand the selling club will demand higher proportion of cash up front.

Agreed, but you can still offset that by paying in installments. That's sometimes why you see a player go to a club you weren't expecting. A bigger fee, over a period of time.

Chelsea have just done it today signing Forfona for 75 million, but its not all upfront and has an additional 5 million in add ons.
The budget was to spend as little as possible as we’ve got fuck all

We've done brilliantly with fuck all then.
 
I'd say it's too early for you to be having a go at the clubs dealings too, but that's not stopped you trying it on every single post on the board.

I'll stick to my opinions, you stick to yous.

Not really. I've had almost two years to take a view on "the model". You've had half a dozen games - max - to judge our transfer business this summer, and in many cases little or no time at all.
 
What are they estimated to be? The only consistent fee I’ve seen is Dan Ballard at £2m

Dan Ballard, £2m
Leon Dajaku, £850k
Jack Clarke, £4m
Aji Alese, £500k
Max Thompson, £200k
Alex Bass, £300k
Connor Pye, £50k
Jewison Bennette, £1m

How far off is this, in your mind?
Apparently JC one was well over estimated.
 
You'd do well to give up. You're now comparing apples and oranges.

The last line of defence for anyone trying to defend what's going on, is to pretend that all of the other clubs which nominally have a "director of football", all operate in exactly the same way. They don't.


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It’s you comparing apples to oranges expecting the coach to make all the decisions when it’s not his to make. “Head Coach” - the clue is in the job title, you seem to be really struggling with this. Of course every model deviates from the other cos no two clubs are the same in terms of wealth or stature. The concept remains the same though.
I'd say it's too early for you to be having a go at the clubs dealings too, but that's not stopped you trying it on every single post on the board.

I'll stick to my opinions, you stick to yous.
You are spot on mate. It’s the very early days of this way of operating. Success will be measured on how well we do this season and how we progress year on year. First step is to be competitive this season and become established in this league.
 
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Nobody outside the two clubs has a clue, as they’re undisclosed.

All we do know, from someone who definitely would know - Alex Neil - is that the figures reported on our spending this summer are grossly inflated.
Lighten up Alex, you got your move to Stoke now just let us get on with it, you hammer!
 
It’s you comparing apples to oranges expecting the coach to make all the decisions when it’s not his to make. “Head Coach” - the clue is in the job title, you seem to be really struggling with this. Of course every model deviates from the other cos no two clubs are the same in terms of wealth or stature. The concept remains the same though.

I'm not struggling with the concept at all. I am "struggling" with the idea that for our club. it's a good idea to take decision making power away from the most experienced and qualified person in the building, and give it to someone with no experience in senior football whatsoever, in any capacity. That's nuts. By the end of the window, we might well see that both of Speakman's signings from January deadline day are no longer at the club, whilst the bloke he tried to force out that same day (Gooch) is an integral part of the team. Hardly a glowing endorsement.
 
I'm not struggling with the concept at all. I am "struggling" with the idea that for our club. it's a good idea to take decision making power away from the most experienced and qualified person in the building, and give it to someone with no experience in senior football whatsoever, in any capacity. That's nuts. By the end of the window, we might well see that both of Speakman's signings from January deadline day are no longer at the club, whilst the bloke he tried to force out that same day (Gooch) is an integral part of the team. Hardly a glowing endorsement.
So how isn’t it a problem for other clubs (now in the PL) to make a success of it using the same set up ? It’s no longer the 1970’s where the “manager” makes all the decisions. Player’s brought in last January will have been to help get us out of L1. We’re now in the championship where the dynamic is completely different. By your logic we should be competing at a higher lever with L1 players signed last January.A quick look shows Brentford’s D of F Phil Giles, had no previous football experience at all yet look what they have achieved.
 
The accounts will be the final arbitrator but i doubt we paid 2 million in cash up front for Clarke...........the player himself obviously wanted to come back here so if spurs didnt want to keep him and he refused other clubs gambling on a bigger pay day down the line might have been the best option for spurs.
If the fee is higher after instalments, that will be the amount capitalised in the accounts. Anything owed will be on creditors.
 
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