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Okie dokie. A detailed argument follows.
I think virtually every member of the board would agree with the following statements:
- the club has been in a mess for years, poor governance has been a running theme
- the end of last season, with the signing of some quality players in January felt like a movement in the right direction
- Moyes was seen as the obvious choice post Sam but had limited time
Not one person expected top 10. Most people expected a season of 15th or lower with the hope of a higher placing. Leicester, miracles etc.
Moyes came in with a pedigree. He did a cracking job at Everton, was set up to fail at Man Utd and was on a hiding to nothing in Spain. But we had a competent manager. Not an exciting manager. But someone who was solid and would build foundations. What we got was the following:
Signings. A critique:
Mika - a panicked signing. Adds nothing
Manquillo - you say he wasn't picked to start. Why, I ask would you loan someone who has played at Liverpool and Marseille on loan to sit on the bench? Behind Billy Jones? And set a (now disputed) purchase price of £12m?
Papy - well well well. I buy the logic of inflation. But Chelsea bit our hands off. And he doesn't get in ahead of a 35/36 year old JOS
Oviedo - I like him, a good buy
N'Dong - jury is out. Scouted by old regime? Who knows.
Lescott - talk is of £37k a week. For someone who has played how many minutes? After failing in f***ing Greece?
Gibson - absolute f***ing dross. Past it and injured
Pienaar - I actually get the logic. Free.
Anichibe - ditto. Did something initially.
Januzaj - an absolute disaster. And Moyes knows him. An utter waste of f***ing space. A heart the size of a pea. He can fuck off
McNair - £5m for nothing. He's a championship player. He's escaped flack as injured, but he's second tier
Love - only 500k but third choice. Offers nothing
Denayer - good loan, hasn't worked out
Selection: a critique
1) we all knew Pickford was our best keeper. All of us. It took Mannone to get injured to happen. Since then our best player
2) Khazri - has he got fat? Demotivated? Who knows? But he still offers something and has virtually no opportunity to prove himself. Bar 15mins here and there. Set up to fail
3) who plays where? Denayer at the back? Midfield? Love starts at right back (3rd choice tho) and then disappears. Gooch starts and can't get a game post injury
Man management:
Well let's call it mood. Read the board. Look at the crowds. Look at the players
- comments post Boro (interpret them as you like)
We're set up to lose. He has sucked the life out of the players and the fans.
He got a tough hand. A club badly run. But he has not done one positive thing. Not one signing that we think improves us. Not one. Short term drivel.
And negativity.
Marco Silva sold his two best players but changed the mood. Moyes has changed the mood for the worst.
Of course it's a good thing he was class down QPR last season. Do you not want him to flourish on the Championship?McNair showed promise against lower league opposition and that's a good thing?
Well I'd prefer he wasn't shit against them aye. But I'd prefer even more that he'd done something in the league we bought him forOf course it's a good thing he was class down QPR last season. Do you not want him to flourish on the Championship?
Fair enough I haven't given up on young Paddy just yet.Well I'd prefer he wasn't shit against them aye. But I'd prefer even more that he'd done something in the league we bought him for
I haven't given up on Love eitherFair enough I haven't given up on young Paddy just yet.
True never give up on Love!I haven't given up on Love either
But they offered nowt in the season just gone. And we shouldn't have been buying players who can compete in a league below
Okie dokie. A detailed argument follows.
I think virtually every member of the board would agree with the following statements:
- the club has been in a mess for years, poor governance has been a running theme
- the end of last season, with the signing of some quality players in January felt like a movement in the right direction
- Moyes was seen as the obvious choice post Sam but had limited time
Not one person expected top 10. Most people expected a season of 15th or lower with the hope of a higher placing. Leicester, miracles etc.
Moyes came in with a pedigree. He did a cracking job at Everton, was set up to fail at Man Utd and was on a hiding to nothing in Spain. But we had a competent manager. Not an exciting manager. But someone who was solid and would build foundations. What we got was the following:
Signings. A critique:
Mika - a panicked signing. Adds nothing
Manquillo - you say he wasn't picked to start. Why, I ask would you loan someone who has played at Liverpool and Marseille on loan to sit on the bench? Behind Billy Jones? And set a (now disputed) purchase price of £12m?
Papy - well well well. I buy the logic of inflation. But Chelsea bit our hands off. And he doesn't get in ahead of a 35/36 year old JOS
Oviedo - I like him, a good buy
N'Dong - jury is out. Scouted by old regime? Who knows.
Lescott - talk is of £37k a week. For someone who has played how many minutes? After failing in f***ing Greece?
Gibson - absolute f***ing dross. Past it and injured
Pienaar - I actually get the logic. Free.
Anichibe - ditto. Did something initially.
Januzaj - an absolute disaster. And Moyes knows him. An utter waste of f***ing space. A heart the size of a pea. He can fuck off
McNair - £5m for nothing. He's a championship player. He's escaped flack as injured, but he's second tier
Love - only 500k but third choice. Offers nothing
Denayer - good loan, hasn't worked out
Selection: a critique
1) we all knew Pickford was our best keeper. All of us. It took Mannone to get injured to happen. Since then our best player
2) Khazri - has he got fat? Demotivated? Who knows? But he still offers something and has virtually no opportunity to prove himself. Bar 15mins here and there. Set up to fail
3) who plays where? Denayer at the back? Midfield? Love starts at right back (3rd choice tho) and then disappears. Gooch starts and can't get a game post injury
Man management:
Well let's call it mood. Read the board. Look at the crowds. Look at the players
- comments post Boro (interpret them as you like)
We're set up to lose. He has sucked the life out of the players and the fans.
He got a tough hand. A club badly run. But he has not done one positive thing. Not one signing that we think improves us. Not one. Short term drivel.
And negativity.
Marco Silva sold his two best players but changed the mood. Moyes has changed the mood for the worst.
This is a huge reason he has failed to an insane degree IMOYou seem like an intelligent man fyl2u and I admire your optimism but I just can't see it. Moyes would get 1 from me and that would be VERY generous. I objected to bringing him in at all, for a few reasons:
1) His 'success' at Everton was reasonable but not spectacular and a long time ago now.
2) Everton have improved without him.
3) He was hopeless at Man Utd.
4) He was even worse in Spain!
5) For a long time now he's looked like yesterday's man.
6) Confidence shot to hell.
Of course, I might have been wrong in all of this so has he done ANYTHING this season to persuade me I was wrong about him? No, absolutely not.
1) All of his buys have been awful.
2) When we're supposed to be making money on players we buy, all of his look like buys we'll lose money on.
3) He took a team that finished VERY strongly at the end of last season and spent £30m+ to make that team considerably worse.)
4) If I'm generous I'd say that tactically he has nothing beyond Plan A but in truth, for a lot of this season he hasn't even looked like he has a Plan A at all.
5) Team selections have been bizarre
6) Substitutions have been woeful
7) Couldn't motivate horny teenage lads in a brothel
8) Are the injuries really just unlucky or is it a mixture of terrible training methods and players skiving?
He's sucked the life out of the club in a way I can't remember ever happening before. He brought nothing, he's achieved nothing and I hope he leaves with nothing. If we give him money to spend in the summer we might as well flush it down the toilet. Actually I agree that I think we should take two seasons to get back up at least to make sure we're better prepared but with this idiot in charge we're more likely to be taken down to League 1 next season.