What does the government gain by restricting society and the economy?
If we go along with it, maybe the idea isn't to restrict the entirety of society and the economy? Maybe they just target certain sections of society that aren't economically productive? Dystopian like but would you put it past the Tories?
This obsession with hospital capacity won’t go away. People were ignorant to how many died of flu before March 2020 but now you’ll probably see recurring figures etc. for that too. That Hopkins was essentially saying that because we’ve suppressed people’s immunity by limiting contact, flu likely to come back with vengeance. Some said that would happen but were dismissed as cranks.
Wimbledon tournament will be full, but stadiums won’t be in August, to give one example. I think the days of traditional social clubs are over too.If we go along with it, maybe the idea isn't to restrict the entirety of society and the economy? Maybe they just target certain sections of society that aren't economically productive? Dystopian like but would you put it past the Tories?
I'm buying shares in tinfoil manufacturers tomorrow.
In my opinion we shouldn’t lockdown for the flu or have any restrictions other than advice for it with the exception of encouraging as many people to take flu jab as possible. I think there’s more to life than merely existing. But what I want or desire is irrelevant. I accept the fact that the public at large now are happy to have significant curtailment over people’s lives to ensure deaths from respiratory illnesses are down to as low a level as an be feasibly possible.
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The public support these measures. More people thought the unlock was too fast than too slow.
Indeed. I hope to God I am wrong, and I think it would leave my mental state in tatters, but I fear what I outlined a few posts above will be close to reality.UK needs to prepare for 'hard winter' of flu and respiratory viruses, says top medic
Population immunity to non-Covid viruses could be lower owing to lack of exposure, says PHE official
If you'd dared to speculate about the above you'd have been met with the hilarious 'wibble' put down.
Guaranteed that restrictions will make a return in some capacity.
I feel the same tbh. But my fear is there’s no end goal. Once we decide to have restrictions beyond this summer there is no going back, and will be a truly ‘new normal’.
I don’t agree that there’s no end goal or that it will result in a completely new normal for the rest of our lives but from my point of view winter restrictions will certainly be a aspect of society for the next winter or 2. I work at the hospital, winter pressure isn’t exaggerated at all when you hear reports about it in the media. Normal winter pressure combined with covid is certainly going to alter the next year or 2 whilst the rest of the word recovers and vaccinates. Again I do believe it will all be truly over but not this year I don’t think.
Why only the next year or two? Even if we administer vaccines to every adult we feasibly can, Covid will still be around. If this notion of a bad flu year coming this year, what’s to stay that won’t be the case every year?
I agree with all of that. But we should be able to do everything we’ve always done in the winter. I’m all for a public campaign to vaccinate every adult against flu if needs be, to have hand sanitising stations everywhere, for employees to have more rights to stay at home when feeling unwell with no impact on their pay and holiday terms, and to ADVISE mask wearing in enclosed indoor spaces.
People are going to stop me and others doing it this winter though. You can see it coming. The groundwork is being laid.
