No More Petrol Cars from 2030

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I wonder how many people here buy new cars anyway? The vast majority of us will be driving old cars, so banning sales of new petrol/diesel cars from 2030 will mean we will be driving them and buying used ones until 2040/2050 anyway.

The cars are getting there, but the charging infrastructure is going to be the big issue. Or if we go down the hydrogen fuel cell route, the infrastructure for producing and distributing that.

Quite a lot these days go down the lease & PCP route on new cars.
 
The power grid is creaking already. Major work needed on its infastructure. Elv points in their infancy. Il be supprised if it happens, but if it keeps the tree huggers happy for a few years then mission accomplished by the Tories.

Tree huggers :lol:

Clueless
 
How many people can realistically afford a 23 grand Nissan Leaf and whatever the cost is for a charging station at home etc. I certainly can’t.

I understand you can get cheaper used ones but still, not everyone can afford that either. Some people rely on cheap used cars to get to work and bring in the pennies.

I think even if you can afford it at the moment they make little sense. They are vastly more expensive than an equivalent normal car and the technology is still improving at a huge rate, so by the time you come to sell it, it will have lost a huge amount of value. Personally I’d love one, but the time isn’t right yet.
 
At lot of good points from people on this thread how the ban will affect THEM. That’s what’s important here.
 
I think even if you can afford it at the moment they make little sense. They are vastly more expensive than an equivalent normal car and the technology is still improving at a huge rate, so by the time you come to sell it, it will have lost a huge amount of value. Personally I’d love one, but the time isn’t right yet.
The biggest reason people are buying ev’s at the minute are the tax perks. Take them away and you would hardly see any on the road.
 
Just means loads of people will change from buying/leasing new to buying second hand. Nobody is going to stop using petrol cars until they close all the petrol stations or ban them outright.
 
Tree huggers :lol:

Clueless
Imagine not wanting children to breathe in filthy air. Bloody hippies.

Anyway, we need fewer cars not newer cars. People are living more locally than they've done in decades thanks to this pandemic. Would be good to start looking at connecting residential areas to schools, bus stations, shops etc with good walking and cycling infrastructure so people can potentially leave their car on their drive unless they need to make long distance travel.

I know for a fact we'll make a mess of charging infrastructure for these cars and end up with wires all over and charging points all over the footways.
 
After a trip to America I wondered why it was worth bothering.

Because if we start to change, others will follow, like we are following others. The US will change now too thanks to having actual leadership come January.
Imagine not wanting children to breathe in filthy air. Bloody hippies.

Anyway, we need fewer cars not newer cars. People are living more locally than they've done in decades thanks to this pandemic. Would be good to start looking at connecting residential areas to schools, bus stations, shops etc with good walking and cycling infrastructure so people can potentially leave their car on their drive unless they need to make long distance travel.

I know for a fact we'll make a mess of charging infrastructure for these cars and end up with wires all over and charging points all over the footways.

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At lot of good points from people on this thread how the ban will affect THEM. That’s what’s important here.
I see what you are saying. But how this will affect the individual is hugely important. Once again - the less well off will be the worst affected here.
We're announcing bold commitments and actions but there's no plan as to how we get there.
 
I see what you are saying. But how this will affect the individual is hugely important. Once again - the less well off will be the worst affected here.
We're announcing bold commitments and actions but there's no plan as to how we get there.

im not sure transport is one area where that’s true, a lot of people who are less well off rely on public transport
 
I live in semi detached with a garage and driveway and pod point did an assessment and decided they couldn't put a point in where we live. Can't see the infrastructure being anywhere near ready for everyone to drive electric cars in 10 years.
Then never mind terraced houses and London style townhouses - no chance of ever getting a charging point there. People who really believe in the whole EV car thing are living in a dreamworld
 
I'd love to know how we are gonna charge them on the street. Even then it will need to be a universal system - parking's bad enough in most places before fighting for a dedicated charge point.

Will just be another way of taxing the poor. Rich (er) people with driveways can charge them at home with a cheaper rate.

Park on the street, you'll have to go to a charging station and have ya eyes took out.
 
im not sure transport is one area where that’s true, a lot of people who are less well off rely on public transport
A lot yes. Not the majority of low paid workers though. Call centres and factories built out of town. Especially somewhere like the north east where our public transport offering is absolutely pathetic.
If I lived in London I'd barely think this is an issue.
 
Then never mind terraced houses and London style townhouses - no chance of ever getting a charging point there. People who really believe in the whole EV car thing are living in a dreamworld
Not necessarily needed
 

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