No More Petrol Cars from 2030

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Yep - loads of roof space on distribution Centre for pv panels as well. I wonder if they could put panels on the vehicle as well - big flat space and outside all day.
No idea on how the lorries work for the likes of Asda but if they are not used overnight then you wouldn't even need to recharge during the shift, just as you say have solar and maybe wind at the centres where the lorries park up and they would be getting free fuel.
 
No idea on how the lorries work for the likes of Asda but if they are not used overnight then you wouldn't even need to recharge during the shift, just as you say have solar and maybe wind at the centres where the lorries park up and they would be getting free fuel.
Would be much more viable to have a switch in/out battery in trucks. Takes 20 mins to switch whilst the wagon is loaded up
 
No idea on how the lorries work for the likes of Asda but if they are not used overnight then you wouldn't even need to recharge during the shift, just as you say have solar and maybe wind at the centres where the lorries park up and they would be getting free fuel.
If my calls are right... then let’s say there are 8 square meters on the truck roof. You would get about 1.2kw per hour. So in Switzerland that is 1765 kw hours per year. It looks like they truck does 1km per kw/h so 1765km would be self generated.

The transit sized van looks more interesting as it does 3.6 km per kWh. If you got 4 square meters of panels on it you would generate 880 kWh which would be 3200km. In somewhere like Malta it would be twice that which given its size probably means they would be self sufficient.
 
If my calls are right... then let’s say there are 8 square meters on the truck roof. You would get about 1.2kw per hour. So in Switzerland that is 1765 kw hours per year. It looks like they truck does 1km per kw/h so 1765km would be self generated.

The transit sized van looks more interesting as it does 3.6 km per kWh. If you got 4 square meters of panels on it you would generate 880 kWh which would be 3200km. In somewhere like Malta it would be twice that which given its size probably means they would be self sufficient.
Guess it all goes down to cost, depends how long they keep a lorry for and the likes, but either way the range on them is a positive.

Could well make the range unlimited to a degree, then demand surely goes up and hopefully price comes closer to the ice equivalent.
 
But we're basing that on being plenty of chargers available. If there isn't then I could be held up for over an hour.

The current problem is the massive lack of infrastructure & zero faith in this government to deliver it.

Oh and the 200+ mile cars aren't yet affordable. So I'd probably need 2 stop offs. Which could end up being a right pain in the arse

Cornwall would be a nightmare
I was looking at electric cars today and there’s many of them that wouldn’t get a few people I know to work and home again on a charge never mind to Bristol. I’m only 130 miles from Bristol too
 
Not one that runs on electricity though, hundreds of people die from air pollution every year in Britain

10,000 I believe is the figure, attributed to pollution related deaths in the U.K.
I’ve just finished an EV charging park for Ho Ahead Group, at their depot in dunston. They have a fleet of nee electric buses to serve Gateshead, with more coming next year. 120kw chargers, charge buses overnight and off in their route in the morning.

Trying to persuade them to put pv on the depot roof and a battery storage facility and a fair bit of the energy used would be generate by the sun, stored then used to charge the buses overnight. The battery storage system would be in a 20 foot container, contain 300kw of battery power per container so you can scale it up if needed, and the batteries are 2nd life recondition from EVs.

Circular economy, sustainable, clean, renewable.
 
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Wonder why they are spending £800m on development of a new petrol engine, seems like a waste




That’s in the US no? GM say those engines are primarily for their SUV and pick-ups.

We will reach mass adoption of EV and/or hydrogen vehicles but probably will require hybrids for a good number of years.
 
That’s in the US no? GM say those engines are primarily for their SUV and pick-ups.

We will reach mass adoption of EV and/or hydrogen vehicles but probably will require hybrids for a good number of years.
Yes USA, mustn't be as confident despite what the say further down.
 
10,000 I believe is the figure, attributed to pollution related deaths in the U.K.
I’ve just finished an EV charging park for Ho Ahead Group, at their depot in dunston. They have a fleet of nee electric buses to serve Gateshead, with more coming next year. 120kw chargers, charge buses overnight and off in their route in the morning.

Trying to persuade them to put pv on the depot roof and a battery storage facility and a fair bit of the energy used would be generate by the sun, stored then used to charge the buses overnight. The battery storage system would be in a 20 foot container, contain 300kw of battery power per container so you can scale it up if needed, and the batteries are 2nd life recondition from EVs.

Circular economy, sustainable, clean, renewable.
Sounds good!We’re planning a mixture of PV’s and storage batteries rather than feed the grid. Next car will be an EV .
 

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