No More Petrol Cars from 2030

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Few reasons I said take away work as I wanted to know the full cost without free from work as Im self employed so wouldnt get that and Im guessing most work places would start charging if 200 people had cars parked getting charged up each day, unless they are work cars and the likes.

So the cost is around 25% of what most pay per mile im guessing, once the prices come down to similar to ICE cars then no reason not to switch for most, I'm one of the unlucky ones as I need a big range or fast charging in a van, hope they come soon.
I think they will, if you had asked me 2 years ago I didn't think id have had one for a good few years but it all stacked up and financially it was a no brainer. Plus its mint to drive.
I'm not saying I'll not have another petrol or diesel, if I end up permanently wfh I might just buy a runaround or an old classic, was looking at a capri the other week ha ha. As demand increases prices will fall, vw have invested 30bn in EV development.
 
40 million cars on uk roads , 9 years to go until petrol ban, national grid has been known to struggle at peak times, and it takes on average 7-8 years to build and commission a new power station. You might have confidence in solutions being found, but I will be investing in a new bike.
Most cars will be charged overnight, when there is a lot of spare capacity.
 
there won’t be spare capacity if everyone charging ev’s overnight though
There is a solution, the Germans are working on hydrogen fuel cells. Basically uses hydrogen to power the electric motor. Positives hydrogen is plentiful and the only waste produced is water. Negatives, is expensive as requires a platinum catalyst, and hydrogen has had its problems in transport before, eg the Hindenburg
 
there won’t be spare capacity if everyone charging ev’s overnight though
Been working on EV stuff this week. No grid problems predicted in the near future. At 100% EV, which would be probably 2040 ish there could be some problems but there are numerous developments that are in play at the moment that should resolve any issues.
 
How much does it cost the people with an EV on average per mile if you just charge at home or at the charging points at supermarkets and service stations?

Not including work as I guess most places would stop giving it away for free if all staff were using it.

Just trying to work out how long it would take the average person to be in net profit.
At home on a normal electricity tariff most cost around 4p per mile. The cheaper over night energy tariffs could be half that.
Supermarkets are usually free from my experience.
I work across hospitals and everyone I've been to has been free. Think I've charged at home maybe a dozen times in 30 month
 
Switched to a mild hybrid this year.

I can't wait to get an all electric mind, but it's got to be able to do everything cars can currently do before it becomes feasible. I can only afford one, so it needs to be able to do 400 miles on a charge and recharge fully in less than twenty minutes. We'll get there eventually, whether by 2030 I don't know, but it's a good ambition to have.
 
At home on a normal electricity tariff most cost around 4p per mile. The cheaper over night energy tariffs could be half that.
Supermarkets are usually free from my experience.
I work across hospitals and everyone I've been to has been free. Think I've charged at home maybe a dozen times in 30 month
Very positive cost wise then, like I said in previous post the reason I wanted to know solely paying for charges is that would be my main option, just need the range in vans to be upped then I will get one, that saving per mile will soon add up.
 
Switched to a mild hybrid this year.

I can't wait to get an all electric mind, but it's got to be able to do everything cars can currently do before it becomes feasible. I can only afford one, so it needs to be able to do 400 miles on a charge and recharge fully in less than twenty minutes. We'll get there eventually, whether by 2030 I don't know, but it's a good ambition to have.

I'd be happy with less than 400 miles range as even if I was driving that far I would want to stop off at least once on a journey that long. But fast charging and charging near home would be a must.

If there was a good charging infrastructure and fast charging, a couple of hundred miles of real world use (not manufacturers figures) would suffice.
 
Big step forward for trucking.


Only issue is in the 2019 catalogue the range was 120km, so real terms you'd be lucky to get 50 miles from a full charge. Fine if you are only driving from one depot to another but I'd be shocked if many lorries on the roads do under 50 miles a day. Was the same when DPD (may have been another courier) purchased a whole fleet of electronic vans, used them in London as they never left the congestion zone, but had to get other lorries to transport all the parcels the majority of the way to them. Also charging takes 6 hours so the average driver would spend most fo hsi shift waiting for it to charge.

The catalogue and the picture on that press release do look slightly different so those figures might not be correct but I couldn't imagine they have improved the range 4 fold in under a year and not updated the website.
 
Only issue is in the 2019 catalogue the range was 120km, so real terms you'd be lucky to get 50 miles from a full charge. Fine if you are only driving from one depot to another but I'd be shocked if many lorries on the roads do under 50 miles a day. Was the same when DPD (may have been another courier) purchased a whole fleet of electronic vans, used them in London as they never left the congestion zone, but had to get other lorries to transport all the parcels the majority of the way to them. Also charging takes 6 hours so the average driver would spend most fo hsi shift waiting for it to charge.

The catalogue and the picture on that press release do look slightly different so those figures might not be correct but I couldn't imagine they have improved the range 4 fold in under a year and not updated the website.
I’ll dig around a little and see if there is anything about range
 
I'd be happy with less than 400 miles range as even if I was driving that far I would want to stop off at least once on a journey that long. But fast charging and charging near home would be a must.

If there was a good charging infrastructure and fast charging, a couple of hundred miles of real world use (not manufacturers figures) would suffice.
When was the last time you drove over 200 miles?
 
This says up to 300km so 190 miles. Although this refers to a 16 ton gross weight and an 11 ton payload whereas the carlsberg article says 26 ton.

I would guess that just shy of 200 miles for this type of distribution is fine. They have bought 20 of them so I guess they did the sums!

 
I’ll dig around a little and see if there is anything about range

Just noticed I'm an idiot, the range is 185 miles, I was looking at the smaller van, doesn't seem too bad now haha. Guessing the likes of Asda and other supermarkets will be moving onto these for delivery from the distribution centres to stores as they should be able to get everything done in one charge.
 
Just noticed I'm an idiot, the range is 185 miles, I was looking at the smaller van, doesn't seem too bad now haha. Guessing the likes of Asda and other supermarkets will be moving onto these for delivery from the distribution centres to stores as they should be able to get everything done in one charge.
Yep - loads of roof space on distribution Centre for pv panels as well. I wonder if they could put panels on the vehicle as well - big flat space and outside all day.
 
Here's a thought..................... what about the massive impact on the environment that the manufacture of these electic cars has?

Or do we not count that.

It must be great fun digging up precious metals in Africa.
 

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