No More Petrol Cars from 2030

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Its actually load of small batteries rather than one mashoosive one isn't it?

How heavy would a removable one that does, say 75 miles, be?

They average about 250 miles so 75 miles is about 3 1/3 of the full amount. 3 1/3 of 540kg is about 160kg. They literally cover the floor and are stacked on top of each other in parts. They have over 7000 cells wrapped in 16 modules. Each module weighs nearly 34kg. You would need to take out, carry and exchange 5 or 6 of them to get your extra 75 miles. Can see loads of elderly with their caravans in tow managing that.
 
They average about 250 miles so 75 miles is about 3 1/3 of the full amount. 3 1/3 of 540kg is about 160kg. They literally cover the floor and are stacked on top of each other in parts. They have over 7000 cells wrapped in 16 modules. Each module weighs nearly 34kg. You would need to take out, carry and exchange 5 or 6 of them to get your extra 75 miles. Can see loads of elderly with their caravans in tow managing that.
Thanks. I was wondering what size/weight replacable battery would be needed.
How did the Renault/Nissan scheme work then? Did someone come out and do it for you?
 
Thanks. I was wondering what size/weight replacable battery would be needed.
How did the Renault/Nissan scheme work then? Did someone come out and do it for you?

I just quickly googled their weight and found a bit of info.
What Nissan/Renault scheme?
 
This is a good move and to be applauded although from an environmental perspective it’s probably beneficial to keep your existing car for as long as possible for most people when all environmental factors/ resources are taken in to account.
 
I dunno like and don't get me wrong I still love petrol cars but mine is as enjoyable to drive as my S5 was from 3 years ago, especially on windy roads as you can pretty much drive 1 pedal if you set it up right.

With respect S5s are terrible by all account so that figures. :lol:
 
Thanks. I was wondering what size/weight replacable battery would be needed.
How did the Renault/Nissan scheme work then? Did someone come out and do it for you?
If im not mistaken the Renault/Nissan scheme was to basically cover the buyer and then manufacture as they were worried that the battery capacity would drop over time, so youd only really change it once or twice in the time you had the car, the range was only 100 miles with them in the summer driving economically. It wasn't designed for the quick change and go again idea you have.

What ranges do people get who dont have a tesla and how much does it cost yous per mile?

Wish some manufacturer would make a medium size van with a decent battery, so many companies would jump on them in my opinion as long term it will save thousands.
 
So you've never drove one, great drive tbh but depends what you're comparing it to of course, " terrible" compared to what?

Compared to any decent handling car. Where to start? What about a Hyundai i30N? Guaranteed to handle better than any current Audi.
 
I remember in 1977 or 78 some student got a summer job working on the same site as me and he was talking about him and his mate both having just bought computers. I asked him what he does with it and he said him and his mate can send message to each other via a phone line and they can read the message on a tv monitor. I laughed and said why don't you just phone him then instead :lol:, it's pointless, it'll never catch on. OOOPS :oops:

That's a Section 59. People have been prosecuted for "harsh acceleration" in the past even though they haven't broken any speed limits.

Good job I accelerate smoothly and in a controlled fashion then.
Don't they catch up to you then?

They do. It isn’t about getting to my destination faster. Anyone can break the speed limit, but not all cars have the power to accelerate that fast.
 
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They do. It isn’t about getting to my destination faster. Anyone can break the speed limit, but not all cars have the power to accelerate that fast.
Sounds rather pointless. I can imagine it draining the battery at an alarming rate too.
 
How many fast charging points are there? What happens when there's a queue for them?
There are loads and I've never queued yet.

None of these are problems we can't overcome. If there is a demand, people will build the supply.
Nee offence but it sounds like you’ve never driven a decent car.

I cant think of any fun EV - Unless you measure fun as accelerating quickly for a bit in silence.
So what bit do you find enjoyable, if not the acceleration?
 
I thought most would know based on the VED they pay. Could be wrong.
Like i say its more in the frame now due to cost but still don't think its the driver in choosing cars for many

Sitting behind any car ,you'd be non the wiser regards pollution which ones worse except and old diesel with a dodgy head gasket
 
Which you will have to fill with fuel fir a decent trip.

Of course you you do, but I'll give you an example. I filled a hired Qashqai yesterday morning to travel to Coventry and back last night/early this morning, thats a 360 mile round trip and made it with quarter of a tank to spare. I couldn't do that with an electric.

I've had an Ioniq as a hire car and loved it, really good. My brothers wife has a Tesla and the power is unbelevable. All I'm saying, is for range or long trips, they're still way short of convential cars.
 
We don't have the resources to make them or power them and they are far too expensive. Why would I bother getting one at the minute when I pay nothing but diesel and maintenance which is nothing compared to what an electric cars costs.
 
Where is this?

And this site doesn't include them all.

Anything over 40kw will be quick enough for most.
Where is this?
Filtered to only rapid chargers...

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Handling/corners. Much more fun.
And how does an EV affect that?
 
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Of course you you do, but I'll give you an example. I filled a hired Qashqai yesterday morning to travel to Coventry and back last night/early this morning, thats a 360 mile round trip and made it with quarter of a tank to spare. I couldn't do that with an electric.

I've had an Ioniq as a hire car and loved it, really good. My brothers wife has a Tesla and the power is unbelevable. All I'm saying, is for range or long trips, they're still way short of convential cars.

I think is where the argument becomes ridiculous, getting bogged down on how far you drive on average. Right now this is true but in the next two years, by the end of 2022, at the top-end of EV it won't hold true anymore. By 2030, I would imagine that mid-range EVs, which will be coming down in price, will be comparable to petrol/diesel.

If you bought new in 2029 by the time you come to upgrade in say 2033/35 the range will be way ahead of any ICE car today. Top end could even have a range that exceeds daily driving distance.
 

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