No More Petrol Cars from 2030

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Get an electrician to put some power in the Garage.

Mind saying that, it costs me about £11 to charge the car at home, where a lot of charging points are £1 and take only an hour.

I would disagree, most people with cars at the top of the band will be pretty savvy, and with the company car tax being 1% for electric, there is a big saving to be had.

Those running Lambo’s / Bentley’s / Aston’s / Ferrari’s etc. won’t care imo, unless they can buy an electric replacement as good which is probably some way off.

similarly with hot hatches near top of emissions, people buy them for the looks and driving experience. They won’t care about tax or emissions
 
Heard something a while ago about electric vehicles apparently we literally don't have enough resources on the planet to replace every vehicle with an electric car. There's an element they use which is very rare and very expensive and there's not enough of it to go around.

Cobalt? Think they use that to ensure the batteries don't burst into flames.

It's mined from Africa. They'll rape them of that while lecturing us about stuff from two hundred years ago and hope no one notices.
 
Cobalt? Think they use that to ensure the batteries don't burst into flames.

It's mined from Africa. They'll rape them of that while lecturing us about stuff from two hundred years ago and hope no one notices.
It is, but cobalt is also used in the production of petroleum.
 
The I-Pace takes 13 hours to fully charge at home, an hours charge at home will get you 20 miles! Not for me thanks, I think I'll let the early adopters have them until the time comes when graphene batteries become practical.


Empty to full
3-pin plugHome39 h7 m/h
3.7kWHome / Work25 h11 m/h
7kWHome / Work / Public Locations13 h20 m/h
22kWWork / Public Locations8 h32 m/h
20%-80%
50kWPublic Locations70 min73 m/30 min
150kWPublic Locations40 min145 m/30 min
 
What Govt schemes ever come in on time? It will all go to bits and we will be encouraged to "buy petrol to stay helpful" and we can all go around roaring round the country for a good few more years.
 
The I-Pace takes 13 hours to fully charge at home, an hours charge at home will get you 20 miles! Not for me thanks, I think I'll let the early adopters have them until the time comes when graphene batteries become practical.


Empty to full
3-pin plugHome39 h7 m/h
3.7kWHome / Work25 h11 m/h
7kWHome / Work / Public Locations13 h20 m/h
22kWWork / Public Locations8 h32 m/h
20%-80%
50kWPublic Locations70 min73 m/30 min
150kWPublic Locations40 min145 m/30 min

You just need to forward plan. 20 miles per hour is decent, most people have their car sat on the drive for at least 12 hours, that’s a full charge.
 
It's 10 years before the big diesel cut off, so I think I'll wait.
Nothing against electrics cars, but in 10 years the range and infrastructure will be much improved so I reckon I'll buy one once I retire to pootle around in.

a- I just wonder what the place will look like with every car plugged into something overnight, people will be tripping over the all the time.
What happens if someone nicks you cable and you come back to a dead car.

b- I also think small cars will go and SUVs will be king as they'll carry larger batteries and you don't have to worry about MPG anymore.

c- I think putting you car on a train should be more common, that will eliminate a lot of long journey worries.
If you were going to France, you could drive on at Durham, plug in the car, travel to London, switch to the Eurostar, plug in and arrive in Paris with a full charge.
 
In 10 years time there'll be shifty chav b@stards sidling up to people in pubs:

" Eeya mate, wanna buy some spare charger cables. Genuine Audi ones. A can 'ave them 'ere for ya in 10 minutes"

There'll be a whole new industry springing up to provide theft-proof charger cables, a bit like in the '90s when people tried all sorts to stop their cars being 'twocced' or their car radios being lifted.

Edit: Sorry, I forgot pubs are finished. I read it on here.
 
These same discussions were had down the pub in the 80's when home computers were becoming available - and even more recently who remembers the "World Wide Wait"
 
Those running Lambo’s / Bentley’s / Aston’s / Ferrari’s etc. won’t care imo, unless they can buy an electric replacement as good which is probably some way off.

similarly with hot hatches near top of emissions, people buy them for the looks and driving experience. They won’t care about tax or emissions
EVs are far superior when it comes to experience, will piss all over any hot hatch.

And.... Porsche Taycan
 
EVs are far superior when it comes to experience, will piss all over any hot hatch.

And.... Porsche Taycan

thats your opinion, a one that a lot would disagree with especially for driving experience/enjoyment

no doubt they’ll improve and there will be a lot more choice for more sensible money over the next10 years. Will the infrastructure be ready then, i have my doubts its achievable.
 
Well no, that’s no good. What if your workforce suddenly all move into houses without points? What if I forget to charge at home, have to rush to work on my last few amps and find no chargers free? I reckon you need chargers for at least 75% of cars on the road to make it viable.
What if you wake up and find someone has unplugged it during the night for a laugh?

Not petrol points for 75% is there.. if you have a 300 mile range you don't need to stick it on charge every time you see a charge point same as you don't out a fivers worth of petrol in every time you pass a petrol station
 
I've fancied an EV for a few years now but range anxiety and the battery cost/ownership situation has always put me off.

I drive between 25-50 miles a day. Other than that, I go to London 2 times a year and France maybe once a year. I could rent diesel for those trips and the petrol savings throughout the year would pay for the rentals easily enough. Other than that an EV will suit me fine, i have no need to have range anxiety.

The final hurdle is how ridiculously expensive they are, so I think i'll be waiting 5 years for the costs of battery production to come down before i make the dip.
 
Those running Lambo’s / Bentley’s / Aston’s / Ferrari’s etc. won’t care imo, unless they can buy an electric replacement as good which is probably some way off.

similarly with hot hatches near top of emissions, people buy them for the looks and driving experience. They won’t care about tax or emissions
Don’t kid yourself. There are already several electric hypercars that out- perform the ones you mention. They’ll have their own fully electric versions within a year or two.
 
between the UN , expensive electric cars and road charging i think driving will become a thing of the past for the common man - all by design of course
 
Don’t kid yourself. There are already several electric hypercars that out- perform the ones you mention. They’ll have their own fully electric versions within a year or two.

I agree there are, yet a hell of a lot are still buying petrol instead. Its not all about performance for some, its also the driving experience/ sound/looks etc.

no doubt in the next 10 yrs a lot will change, and a lot more will go EV assuming the infrastructure is in place and thats the biggest problem imo
 
It's 10 years before the big diesel cut off, so I think I'll wait.
Nothing against electrics cars, but in 10 years the range and infrastructure will be much improved so I reckon I'll buy one once I retire to pootle around in.

a- I just wonder what the place will look like with every car plugged into something overnight, people will be tripping over the all the time.
What happens if someone nicks you cable and you come back to a dead car.

b- I also think small cars will go and SUVs will be king as they'll carry larger batteries and you don't have to worry about MPG anymore.

c- I think putting you car on a train should be more common, that will eliminate a lot of long journey worries.
If you were going to France, you could drive on at Durham, plug in the car, travel to London, switch to the Eurostar, plug in and arrive in Paris with a full charge.
Can't think of many things less efficient than lugging a load of cars down to London on a train ffs. :lol:
 

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