Gideon Gungeon
Striker
tbf he cost a fraction of the injury prone scot mate
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rocky said:How could it be worse? Did Gordons mistake count as 2 goals?
tbf he cost a fraction of the injury prone scot mate
Did I say they were his only errors?!
Mags - both games - for starters. Fulham away is another that springs immediately to mind.
He's rank average; and thats the problem you and many others have on here- you cant accept that soneone isnt brillant.
On here opinions of players are polarised; they're either shit or brilliant - that's never reality.
Mig is average - an ok keeper. Not going to win us many points but is competent enough.
I'd prefer better, if that's okay with you.
If you're happy with relative mediocrity bully for you.
And better than GordonFFS
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That was equally as shocking as Mignolets, probably worse IMO. Both decent keepers though, who have had a mare in our biggest games of the season. I rate both of them to be honest, but hold high hopes for Mignolet. I think he will become a better keeper than Gordon.
Really dont understand why people on here are determined to hate Mignolet, the facts are there but the SMB has decided he's shite. He's a solid keeper that will only improve.
Agreed. Mignolet is f***ing awful at corners. Woeful to say the least. Absolute shite. How many goals did he let in from corners again last season?
Best shot stopper does not equate to best keeper. Making saves is just one element, not necessarily the most important.
casillas, hart and neuer are great keepers mate
I agree with everything except the bit in bold. In a couple of seasons, he could be better than Gordon, but, at the moment, I'd say that he isn't quite there, yet. This is all rather moot, as, a comparison to Gordon is as relevant as a comparison to any other 'keeper who isn't on our books.
It wasn't even a Gordon mistake against Milner ffs. Just because it was a tame goal, watch it back, he has to cover Owen in the centre of the goal, who along with (McShane?) fails to get anything on the ball, meaning it drifts aimlessly into the bottom corner. Had he followed the ball he'd have left the goal open in the centre when it needed covering. Can't seriously believe people still mention it.
what 'facts'?
and how will he only 'improve'? That's always said about young players on here, but how often do they actually do just that?
Sorenson was young here and didnt improve as he got into his prime, neither really did Gordon and yet Mig only can improve?
Agree with most of your post, except saying that Gordon didn't improve. He improved a lot imo. Very mediocre start to his career here, it was only later that he showed his class. Then injuries etc etc.
Imo it's decision making that makes a good keeper.
It's incredible a successful manager can't see what we do really, and gets rid of Gordon.
Certainly one of the main things and it's my main criticism of Mig so far.
Bravery, positioning, handling, distribution are key at higher levels too and some will get better with experience. For me Mig is as brave as a lion, but currently lacks in too many areas and isn't fantastically agile to live just off shot stopping, hence I can't see why people expect him to get better and better. At the most I expect him to be steady.
Perryqhill said:Oh come on. The world probably knows that after a season out with injury and on big wages when we're trying to keep the wage bill in line, with two keepers here already that there was little chance Gordon would be kept on. the decision was probably little to do with quality and more to do with the risk, when we could use the wages elsewhere, yet you're suggesting that reason was due to ability? Bullshit and you know it.
rentaghost said:Hes more than that already. The problem is with a lot of supporters is that they expect perfection as being the norm when in fact all keepers have flaws in their game to some degree. Mignolet did improve massively last year and even a more gradual improvement over the next season and we will see a good keeper. Hes already a mid range top divison keeper with time on his side.
Hes more than that already. The problem is with a lot of supporters is that they expect perfection as being the norm when in fact all keepers have flaws in their game to some degree. Mignolet did improve massively last year and even a more gradual improvement over the next season and we will see a good keeper. Hes already a mid range top divison keeper with time on his side.
Gordon is made of glass, and has just as many problem areas as migs. SM is young and is developing well. Decision making comes with experience. Just because he didn't cost £9m doesn't mean he's not good enough. Far from it.
You're suggesting that ES and MON are happy to drop as long as wages are in line, when maybe its that our manager sees potential that our fans don't have the patience for.
He's not even steady mate. He's good and bad, but rarely outstanding. Once his decision making improves, hopefully with experience, then he will be steady.
He's had injury problems which all have been made worse by trying to play on, usually after medical advice. Decision making doesn't always come with experience, you have to be able to take it on board too, otherwise you would'nt see shite older keepers making basic flaws and you do. Who mentioned the fee....you, what relevance has it got now?
I'm suggesting nothing of the sort, you're putting words there which I haven't said. I'm saying clearly that wages and money now is an issue that wasn't there when we signed Gordon. Hence now we have two others keepers and Gordon has been out a year, the improvement we would see by having him in the side, alligned to the risk after his injuries probably isn't worth the £2m or so a year he'd be on, when that could be used elsewhere to greater effect.
Don't have patience for? Ha, tell me what potential you see in Mig. In what aspects does he excell?
The problem is that so many posters backed themselves into a corner over Gordon and they point blank refuse to accept that Mignolet is our number one and the better 'keeper. It doesn't matter what stat you throw at them, they have it in their heads that Mignolet is shite and they will keep on believing it despite being totally wrong.
Even before the season starts, you can absolute guarantee even the slightest mistake by Mignolet and he will be hounded on here. A lot of posters on here will be hoping and praying that Mignolet makes some howlers next season, make absolutely no mistake about that.
He's not even steady mate. He's good and bad, but rarely outstanding. Once his decision making improves, hopefully with experience, then he will be steady.
He's had injury problems which all have been made worse by trying to play on, usually after medical advice. Decision making doesn't always come with experience, you have to be able to take it on board too, otherwise you would see shite older keepers making basic flaws and you do. Who mentioned the fee....you, what relevance has it got now?
I'm suggesting nothing of the sort, you're putting words there which I haven't said. I'm saying clearly that wages and money now is an issue that wasn't there when we signed Gordon. Hence now we have two others keepers and Gordon has been out a year, the improvement we would see by having him in the side, alligned to the risk after his injuries probably isn't worth the £2m or so a year he'd be on, when that could be used elsewhere to greater effect.
Don't have patience for? Ha, tell me what potential you see in Mig. In what aspects does he excell?
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