Mignolet - third best premier league keeper last season


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I think Mignolet is a very good keeper overall, and great to have at Sunderland. One thing that's worth noting, though, is that good defenders can affect the quality of shots that a keeper will face. Looking at that list, no way do I believe that David De Gea is a better keeper than either Mignolet or Joe Hart. Rather, I'd argue that Manchester United's defense is able to make his work much easier. That's the problem with listing raw percentages like that - can be misleading.
 
I think Mignolet is a very good keeper overall, and great to have at Sunderland. One thing that's worth noting, though, is that good defenders can affect the quality of shots that a keeper will face. Looking at that list, no way do I believe that David De Gea is a better keeper than either Mignolet or Joe Hart. Rather, I'd argue that Manchester United's defense is able to make his work much easier. That's the problem with listing raw percentages like that - can be misleading.

Still won't tell the full story, obviously, but the average shots faced per game by each club, home and away.

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I think Mignolet is a very good keeper overall, and great to have at Sunderland. One thing that's worth noting, though, is that good defenders can affect the quality of shots that a keeper will face. Looking at that list, no way do I believe that David De Gea is a better keeper than either Mignolet or Joe Hart. Rather, I'd argue that Manchester United's defense is able to make his work much easier. That's the problem with listing raw percentages like that - can be misleading.

The list isn't implying that....it's based on % of shots stopped and nothing else. The OP has just done a bit of tabloid journalism and just made the heading a bit more exciting than the subject matter really is.
 

Smile all you want, we don't have either.

Mignolet and Campbell wouldn't get into many other premiership teams.
Therein lies the problem. They're not good enough if we have aspirations of finishing top 10.

If you want to kid yourself differently, knock yourself out.
As before, watch reruns of WBA away, Everton away and Man City away, and tell me he's any better than average.
 
Smile all you want, we don't have either.

Mignolet and Campbell wouldn't get into many other premiership teams.
Therein lies the problem. They're not good enough if we have aspirations of finishing top 10.

If you want to kid yourself differently, knock yourself out.
As before, watch reruns of WBA away, Everton away and Man City away, and tell me he's any better than average.

3 games doesn't make him worse than average....De Gea was poor for more than 3 months this season. Cech made some awful clangers this season too as well as in the euros. Schezeny (sp) and Reina can be added to that list too...
 
short distance reaction shots you're probably right.
i've seen a few long range shots go passed him that were at the very least questionable.

Hang on, one of the big arguments by people on here was that his shots to
save ratio doesn't count because most are from long range, so which is it?

He's an extremely competent keeper, better than Gordon, who seems to have massively improved whilst injured, and he's only a young lad.

Smile all you want, we don't have either.

Mignolet and Campbell wouldn't get into many other premiership teams.
Therein lies the problem. They're not good enough if we have aspirations of finishing top 10.

If you want to kid yourself differently, knock yourself out.
As before, watch reruns of WBA away, Everton away and Man City away, and tell me he's any better than average.

Yes extremely well reasoned, those 3 games what a shocking goalkeeper only 5 keepers/defensive units conceded less goals last season, so why on earth would be possibly need a goalkeeper?
 
Hang on, one of the big arguments by people on here was that his shots to
save ratio doesn't count because most are from long range, so which is it?

He's an extremely competent keeper, better than Gordon, who seems to have massively improved whilst injured, and he's only a young lad.



Yes extremely well reasoned, those 3 games what a shocking goalkeeper only 5 keepers/defensive units conceded less goals last season, so why on earth would be possibly need a goalkeeper?

I agree with everything except the bit in bold. In a couple of seasons, he could be better than Gordon, but, at the moment, I'd say that he isn't quite there, yet. This is all rather moot, as, a comparison to Gordon is as relevant as a comparison to any other 'keeper who isn't on our books.
 
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Hang on, one of the big arguments by people on here was that his shots to
save ratio doesn't count because most are from long range, so which is it?

He's an extremely competent keeper, better than Gordon, who seems to have massively improved whilst injured, and he's only a young lad.



Yes extremely well reasoned, those 3 games what a shocking goalkeeper only 5 keepers/defensive units conceded less goals last season, so why on earth would be possibly need a goalkeeper?

Did I say they were his only errors?!

Mags - both games - for starters. Fulham away is another that springs immediately to mind.

He's rank average; and thats the problem you and many others have on here- you cant accept that soneone isnt brillant.

On here opinions of players are polarised; they're either shit or brilliant - that's never reality.

Mig is average - an ok keeper. Not going to win us many points but is competent enough.

I'd prefer better, if that's okay with you.
If you're happy with relative mediocrity bully for you.

And better than Gordon :oops: FFS :lol:
 
Really dont understand why people on here are determined to hate Mignolet, the facts are there but the SMB has decided he's shite. He's a solid keeper that will only improve.
 
Lloydy said:
Really dont understand why people on here are determined to hate Mignolet, the facts are there but the SMB has decided he's shite. He's a solid keeper that will only improve.

The problem is that so many posters backed themselves into a corner over Gordon and they point blank refuse to accept that Mignolet is our number one and the better 'keeper. It doesn't matter what stat you throw at them, they have it in their heads that Mignolet is shite and they will keep on believing it despite being totally wrong.

Even before the season starts, you can absolute guarantee even the slightest mistake by Mignolet and he will be hounded on here. A lot of posters on here will be hoping and praying that Mignolet makes some howlers next season, make absolutely no mistake about that.
 
Hang on, one of the big arguments by people on here was that his shots to
save ratio doesn't count because most are from long range, so which is it?

He's an extremely competent keeper, better than Gordon, who seems to have massively improved whilst injured, and he's only a young lad.


ive got absolutely no interest in percentages whatsover because statistics can be very misleading. i watch every goal conceded individually. a few are saying he's a great shot stopper but some of the long range efforts he's conceded have been questionable at best. there's more than man city away, how about his positioning for ryan taylor's free kick?

i think he's an ok keeper but no more than that. ive never mentioned gordon in this thread, its about mignolet's ability.
 
ive got absolutely no interest in percentages whatsover because statistics can be very misleading. i watch every goal conceded individually. a few are saying he's a great shot stopper but some of the long range efforts he's conceded have been questionable at best. there's more than man city away, how about his positioning for ryan taylor's free kick?

i think he's an ok keeper but no more than that. ive never mentioned gordon in this thread, its about mignolet's ability.

Pathetic goalkeeping tbf.
 
Pathetic goalkeeping tbf.


most keeper clangers are down to dropping a cross/shot at the strikers feet or a shot bobbling past them. mig's against ryan taylor was down to very bad fundamentals and total mis-judgement. that's part of the problem, his errors don't appear to be errors as such, just goals that he quite possibly could have saved.

a ive said before he's a fairly competent keeper. if he conceded one like ryan taylor's every other week i'd rapidly re-assess that competent rating.
 
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Nearly as bad as Gordon's against Milner........

That was equally as shocking as Mignolets, probably worse IMO. Both decent keepers though, who have had a mare in our biggest games of the season. I rate both of them to be honest, but hold high hopes for Mignolet. I think he will become a better keeper than Gordon.
 
That was equally as shocking as Mignolets, probably worse IMO. Both decent keepers though, who have had a mare in our biggest games of the season. I rate both of them to be honest, but hold high hopes for Mignolet. I think he will become a better keeper than Gordon.

How could it be worse? Did Gordons mistake count as 2 goals?
 
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