Mignolet - third best premier league keeper last season


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Gordon was slated often (IMO he was/is a great shot stopper and didn't deserved all the abuse), but now he seems to be a God on here. His flapping against Spurs, his nightmare at Stoke, Fabregas looking like Koller in the 6 yard box never happened, Gordon was the master of his box and as reliable as Casillas and Buffon at their peak, it seems.

Time to move on me thinks...anyway, neither will ever be as good at crosses (or pens) as Siddal
 

Poor distribution, weak as piss coming for corners/set pieces. He comes across as an unintelligent goalie to me. As dodgie as Gordon was when defending corners, he was much better than Mignolet overall.

Mig is a very good keeper. That's the truth, get used to it!

Gordon was slated often (IMO he was/is a great shot stopper and didn't deserved all the abuse), but now he seems to be a God on here. His flapping against Spurs, his nightmare at Stoke, Fabregas looking like Koller in the 6 yard box never happened, Gordon was the master of his box and as reliable as Casillas and Buffon at their peak, it seems.

Stoke? You mean the game in which all three goals should have been disallowed for either offside or a foul??? IIRC at least 2 of those goals were offside.

Probert was the ref that day, he is truly f***ing shocking. Nearly as bad as Webb.
 
gipetto said:
Poor distribution, weak as piss coming for corners/set pieces. He comes across as an unintelligent goalie to me. As dodgie as Gordon was when defending corners, he was much better than Mignolet overall.

That's why the club have let him go for nowt and nobody apart from a team in the SPL have made a move for him.
 
Can anybody come up with a list of goals conceded due to Mig's "weakness" with crosses/corners? I can only think of one off the top of my head.

His distribution is no worse than most keepers in the league either (including Gordon) - becoming a bit of a myth that one I think.

Can we not just be happy that we have a cracking young keeper on our books who has already proven he's good enough for this league and will only get better?
 
mickey said:
He's a very good shot stopper which is what the stats are based on. However, his positioning, judgement and distribution all need work but, as someone who's aged 24, he has plenty of time to improve those aspects of his game.

To his credit, he had very few games last season in which his performance cost us points but the true test of great keepers is that they win you games and not just save them.

I can only think off one keeper who has won a game im all my time watching football. Man city keeper ,corrigan I think, scored to win one nil. Did the carlisle keeper Glass score for a draw or a win I cannot remember
 
Can anybody come up with a list of goals conceded due to Mig's "weakness" with crosses/corners? I can only think of one off the top of my head.

His distribution is no worse than most keepers in the league either (including Gordon) - becoming a bit of a myth that one I think.

Can we not just be happy that we have a cracking young keeper on our books who has already proven he's good enough for this league and will only get better?

i said this the other night, we have a decent young keeper with the potential to be our number one for a few seasons yet, he needs work thats definite but hes done well for a keeper who was thrown in thanks to glass keepers injuries and has been better than i expected.

Hes shown his ability at shot stopping although he doesnt command his box nor do most premiership keepers now and has shown a willingness to come back to help the team while still injured.

I can kind of see what Espen Baarsden meant when he retired, too much expectation for him to be superhuman
 
Daft article since things like ability to claim crosses etc isn't considered. Plus even just looking at % of shots saved it isnt just down to the keeper, the defence plays a massive role. If you have a solid defence and teams are often restricted to shooting on sight from range you'd expect a high % of shots to be saved, if your defence is shite and lets people clean through quite often you could have Schmeichel in his prime and get a fairly low %.

That being said I don't mind Mignolet like- not the third best keeper in the league but definitely good enough for now, got much more pressing positions to address
 
Mig is a very good keeper. That's the truth, get used to it!

Gordon was slated often (IMO he was/is a great shot stopper and didn't deserved all the abuse), but now he seems to be a God on here. His flapping against Spurs, his nightmare at Stoke, Fabregas looking like Koller in the 6 yard box never happened, Gordon was the master of his box and as reliable as Casillas and Buffon at their peak, it seems.

The two things are not related, although I think it's amusing that now Gordon's left, it's commonly accepted onhere that coming out, claiming high balls and dominating your box is nigh on impossible in today's game.

Mig is a rank average keeper. He might get better - he might not. It's taken forgranted by many that he will. There are no guarantees if that.

Some of his weaknesses - the slowness of feet movement, his positioning and his ability to get down quickly - he'll struggle to improve on. He should be at his most agile now.

Other weaknesses - ie kicking and decision making - he can improve on.

I hope he does turn into this fantastic keeper that I wouldn't swap for many in the league, but at present I'd swap him for the vast majority of keepers in the league.

Regardless of who else we realistically sign, we'll struggle to improve much in league positioning if we don't sign a good keeper, IMO of course.
 
Daft article since things like ability to claim crosses etc isn't considered. Plus even just looking at % of shots saved it isnt just down to the keeper, the defence plays a massive role. If you have a solid defence and teams are often restricted to shooting on sight from range you'd expect a high % of shots to be saved, if your defence is shite and lets people clean through quite often you could have Schmeichel in his prime and get a fairly low %.

That being said I don't mind Mignolet like- not the third best keeper in the league but definitely good enough for now, got much more pressing positions to address

On the other hand, you could have a shite defence meaning that the goalkeeper has more to do, and therefore makes more saves. Ben Foster at Birmingham, for example.

Or, you could have a goalkeeper who is poor at dealing with crosses, or has poor positioning, but has excellent reflexes and is excellent at shot stopping. Shay Given, for example.

All it tells us is that statistics like these are largely meaningless and anybody who takes them at face value is a bit of a dimwit.
 
two simple words to put this shameful mig bashing into perspective

Kelvin davis


quit your moaning. tw@ts
 
two simple words to put this shameful mig bashing into perspective

Kelvin davis


quit your moaning. tw@ts

So no ones allowed to discuss any weaknesses in any player because we've had shitter ones before? :lol:

f***ing hell. That's every football related conversation the world over done with.

Anyone who believes the lad is the third best Keeper in the division needs sectioning.

As eloquent as ever Nemo.
 
So no ones allowed to discuss any weaknesses in any player because we've had shitter ones before? :lol:

f***ing hell. That's every football related conversation the world over done with.



As eloquent as ever Nemo.

its not a discussion its fookin moaning over nothing. same happened to gordon. why shell out over a new keeper when other positions need improving/new keeper would get slaughtered anyway.
 
its not a discussion its fookin moaning over nothing. same happened to gordon. why shell out over a new keeper when other positions need improving/new keeper would get slaughtered anyway.

IMO after a striker, goalkeeper's the next position that needs strengthening.
 

He's right man. The lad has done reasonably well but we've all seen a lot of "promising" young keepers fail miserably. Even the ones who have turned out OK have been known to have shit seasons. That's the problem with young Keepers, they can be crap over entire seasons rather than a run of a few poor games.
 
:confused: Two most important positions on the pitch, we don't have a good player for either.

embarrassing yourself saying migs isn't a decent keeper. After bringing in reinforcements upfront I'd say left back, central midfielder and a winger
 
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