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When Ronaldo left Real Madrid for Juventus, they had won 7 titles in a row and 4 doubles in the last four years. They were winning the league with ease. There was little interest in the league and attendances were down.Messi unquestionably is world class but I don’t go in for the whole GOAT thing. I personally preferred Ronaldo. It’s a shame he never took the opportunity to play in a really competitive league. Germany, England or even Italy. He’s basically ended his career by revealing everything he ever said about never playing for anyone else other that Barca or Newell Old Boys as a complete lie and followed the money. Ronaldo could have done the same but he chose a league that would look better on his cv after he retired. Messi’s achievements have basically now ended because no one cares what you achieve with a French team.
But its not competitive no? Becuase realistically the only team able to afford messi is bayern so its not like hed be playing for augsburg is it?More teams in the German league are evenly matched than in France.
When Ronaldo left Real Madrid for Juventus, they had won 7 titles in a row and 4 doubles in the last four years. They were winning the league with ease. There was little interest in the league and attendances were down.
Who should he be going to?It's a shite move to a shite club funded by a state playing championship manager.
It's absolutely everything that we all hate about football, it's not even free market economics it's state interference paying a way above market value that they have no hope of recouping.
Agrees to play in another piss pot league. No ambition to test himself the knars
Theyre top teams used to spank ours.practically everytime they metImagine calling The LaLiga a piss pot league.
For the vast majority of time he played in it, it was one of (if not the best) leagues in the world.
4 top teams within 6 points. Uncompetitive shite apparently though. Should have gone to Bayern to really test himselfThe messi to France being easy scenario is hilarious. France have had more clubs win the title in the last 1p years than any other top European league.
Yet ronaldo goes to juve after they've won about 8 in a row and he is laudedlaughable. He's also took them backwards.
In the last 10 years Montpellier, Lille (2) and Monaco have won Ligue 1. It was a 4 horse race this season.Germany is competitive compared to France when messi signs PSG will have over a billion pounds worth of players the next most expensive team has about £300m and pretty much every remaining team has less than £50m worth. The SPL is more competitive than France.
Doesn’t count if he wins the champions league this year? Has a far better chance than if he had went to any Italian side.Messi unquestionably is world class but I don’t go in for the whole GOAT thing. I personally preferred Ronaldo. It’s a shame he never took the opportunity to play in a really competitive league. Germany, England or even Italy. He’s basically ended his career by revealing everything he ever said about never playing for anyone else other that Barca or Newell Old Boys as a complete lie and followed the money. Ronaldo could have done the same but he chose a league that would look better on his cv after he retired. Messi’s achievements have basically now ended because no one cares what you achieve with a French team.
How will playing for a lesser team convince himself? He either believes he is the best or he doesn't, it cannot be quantified. He will point to his numerous Balon d'Ors and individual awards and records and the vast amount of trophies he has won. He has now won silverware with Argentina which was the last honour that alluded him and genuinely did seem to haunt him. If he was so money-driven I'm sure he could have gone to China or America but it appears as though his drive is to win the Champions League again. I doubt Maradona comparisons keep him up at night, whereas him and Ronaldo seem to drive each other on.Not to convince other people mate, to convince himself. At the end of the day the primary emotion for going into sport isn’t to be rich, it is to be the best. Once you give up on wanting to be the best because you frame your own abilities players then focus on being rich.
It will keep Messi up at night to know that he didn’t achieve what he came in touching distance of doing. And it isn’t as if Maradona was from the other side of the world and Football is a second tier sport in Argentina. He will see reminders every day.
Winners all huff when it doesn't go their way, Ronaldo, Fergie, Klopp, name who you want. Already covered the greed point a million times here also.
Hes an exceptional footballer and you're a football fan, its been unbelievable to watch he and Ronaldo drive eachother on to break record after record for 15 years.
Germany is competitive compared to France when messi signs PSG will have over a billion pounds worth of players the next most expensive team has about £300m and pretty much every remaining team has less than £50m worth. The SPL is more competitive than France.
| HHI | Squad MV | Teams | |
| Ligue 1 | 1096.9 | € 3,601.63 | 20 |
| La Liga | 1018.2 | € 4,933.28 | 20 |
| Bundesliga | 996.2 | € 4,261.51 | 18 |
| EPL | 713.2 | € 8,877.00 | 20 |
| SPL | 2377.5 | € 278.35 | 12 |
We have been incredibly lucky to watch Ronaldo and Messi, I'm old enough to have seen their whole careers, from breaking into the first teams of their clubs to becoming the top 2 of all time (in my opinion). One of the all time greatest sporting rivalries, its a shame the end of messis barca career has come about due to money. His contract is so big and unnecessarily unaffordable because he has been threatening to leave every summer unless they pay him more. Now its so outrageous that even with a 50% pay cut its unaffordable. This is why the Barca and Real presidents were so adamant that the super league was necessary
The bad news for us is league one is very competitive when measured like this!I thought I'd do some number crunching and looked at squad market value (source Transfermkt) and looked at the Herfindhal-Hirschman measure of market concentration (based on squad value) - essentially sum up market values, find the share for each club, square them and sum them. In a 20 team league with everyone having the same value squad the HHI would be 125, in an 18 league 154.3 and a 12 team league (SPL) 347.2. The higher the HHI the more market value is concentrated and not shared. Here are the results:
HHI Squad MV Teams Ligue 1 1096.9 € 3,601.63 20 La Liga 1018.2 € 4,933.28 20 Bundesliga 996.2 € 4,261.51 18 EPL 713.2 € 8,877.00 20 SPL 2377.5 € 278.35 12
So EPL is least concentrated in terms of squad value and the SPL the most. Not much difference between Ligue 1 and La Liga.
| HHI | Squad MV | |
| Championship | 676.5 | € 1,122.30 |
| League 1 | 668.9 | € 148.97 |
| League 2 | 469.5 | € 57.47 |
It's not just his contract that means they can't sign him. Even without his contract they need to shed an absolute fortune before La Liga will let them register anyone, and that included Messi himself. Messi's 50% pay cut was the maximum he could take under Spanish law.We have been incredibly lucky to watch Ronaldo and Messi, I'm old enough to have seen their whole careers, from breaking into the first teams of their clubs to becoming the top 2 of all time (in my opinion). One of the all time greatest sporting rivalries, its a shame the end of messis barca career has come about due to money. His contract is so big and unnecessarily unaffordable because he has been threatening to leave every summer unless they pay him more. Now its so outrageous that even with a 50% pay cut its unaffordable. This is why the Barca and Real presidents were so adamant that the super league was necessary
I just still cant get my head around why he wouldnt play for free like.
He cant love the club that much. Fake tears.
Do you think he gives a fuck about winning the Premier League? Do you think he even gives a shite about winning Ligue 1?I don't give a monkeys how much he's paid, how much he has in the bank or if he is or is not a 'greedy bastard'
He should have come to England, and tried to win another title in a top league....
You can bang on all you like about the only club that made an offer were PSG, but it's only been a few days since he found out he was leaving Barca, hasn't given other clubs a chance to get money and packages together, for some clubs who might have had a chance to sign him it may have taken some time to put together....
Brilliant footballer, one of the best ever, just a shame he's went to a poorer league than ours....