Messi vs Best


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Its madness the way the old timers try to glorify everything about the olden days like

If youre not going to mention of of if not the best player of all time then you're just being daft like
 
Put the crack pipe down mate



Have a word man will you?

Youve seen footage :lol::lol:



Best played 709 games and scored 253 goals. Looking at that i can definitely see why people would think hes better than messi like :lol::lol:

Don't know how you can compare goal tallies. Much easier to score goals when you are Barca at home to tinpot opposition in La Liga.
 
It's more likely Best would struggle in Messi's era than the other way round.

That's rubbish how many times has anyone seen messi play on anything less than a pristine pitch? The fact messi will never leave barca means I will never consider him the best of all time.
 
That's rubbish how many times has anyone seen messi play on anything less than a pristine pitch? The fact messi will never leave barca means I will never consider him the best of all time.

Best done nothing of any real note after leaving utd, pele only played in brazil and USA, beckenbauer Germany and USA, Di Stefano only played in Spain in Europe (Argentina and Columbia in SA).
 
That's rubbish how many times has anyone seen messi play on anything less than a pristine pitch? The fact messi will never leave barca means I will never consider him the best of all time.

How many full 90 minutes live can anyone on here say they seen Best play in also Eusabio, Puskas Pele, Cruyff etc etc etc. Messi every move in every minute of every game will have a camera trained on it. Every great and not so great thing getting annailsyed by pundits and armchair fans. The greats of the past never had to put on with that scrutiny hence you only really remember the good bits or the compilation clips you see on youtube
 
That's rubbish how many times has anyone seen messi play on anything less than a pristine pitch? The fact messi will never leave barca means I will never consider him the best of all time.

Players nowadays are in much better physical condition than they were back then. It wasn't uncommon for players to play pissed and have a fag at half time back then man.
 
Players nowadays are in much better physical condition than they were back then. It wasn't uncommon for players to play pissed and have a fag at half time back then man.

Right I take that on board but if messi had been around back then he would of quiet possibly done those things as well.
 
How many full 90 minutes live can anyone on here say they seen Best play in also Eusabio, Puskas Pele, Cruyff etc etc etc. Messi every move in every minute of every game will have a camera trained on it. Every great and not so great thing getting annailsyed by pundits and armchair fans. The greats of the past never had to put on with that scrutiny hence you only really remember the good bits or the compilation clips you see on youtube

This. I think the fact that these players had a reputation but were still a bit unknown and exotic made them even more exciting. Messi could score a hat-trick in a game now and it would be expected because we've seen it before. Imagine if you were watching him for the first time or the second time rather than the 50th or 60th time.

Right I take that on board but if messi had been around back then he would of quiet possibly done those things as well.

Messi wouldn't have done those things, it's not in his mentality. If you are arguing that his mentality would have been different in those times then you're speculating even more than the original argument which renders the whole discussion pointless.
 
It's a pointless argument considering how few matches were televised back then compared to now. Are those who are old enough to have lived through that era likely to watch much of Barcelona? I tend to find people tend to reminisce about 'their era' over modern football anyway
 
It's a pointless argument considering how few matches were televised back then compared to now. Are those who are old enough to have lived through that era likely to watch much of Barcelona? I tend to find people tend to reminisce about 'their era' over modern football anyway

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We should all just agree that Messi is easily better than Best.
 
I don't think there's any doubt that the modern teams would beat the teams from that era as obviously fitness,training,diet and nutrition regimes are much more advanced compared to then.
My argument is that those players brought through in the modern way would be a match for the present day players.
 
I don't think there's any doubt that the modern teams would beat the teams from that era as obviously fitness,training,diet and nutrition regimes are much more advanced compared to then.
My argument is that those players brought through in the modern way would be a match for the present day players.

Fair enough mate.

I'm looking at it in a more basic 'who is the best player?' scenario, which due to the physical and technological advances means the modern day player invariably comes out on top.
 
Best came up against defenders who would make Michael Turner look quick ;)

Indeed, but also in a world where he could be murdered and a yellow card shown! For this reason we should really be looking at what era the fellas are playing their football, and probably the outcome woud be both are equal under that criteria.
 
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