Bishop Mackem
Striker
CR7 is the best player in my lifetime. (I'm early 20s)
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Messi is already in the top 5 alongside Zidane, Pele, Maradona and Cruijff IMO. From that 5, Cruijff is the only debatable one.
Best would be extremely hard pushed to be in the top 10 at all.
Daglish was better than Best in my opinion.
how old are you fella?
cannot compare really.....but messi would find it harder in 1967 to play his game whereas best would be in his element today!
are you for real?
dont be strupid!
Nee Ronaldo?
Some of this is so far off the mark it's not true. Best was a great all round player he could do it all. Dribble, pass, score goals, good in the air, fit as fuck and a tough little bastard.Best was no where near the all round player messi is , touch of genius but a head full of magic too and hitty missy .
Also i believe he would be physically unable to play against today's science built athletic defenders week in week out . People cite players like , hunter , harris, Mckie , kicking him , f***ing hell most turned like oil tankers and would be lucky to play league 1 today. They wouldn't last 20 minutes at Premier pace either, today's defenders don't tire and become exploitable.
Honestly if they were both unknowns on trial today not a manager in the word would take best over messi.
Some of this is so far off the mark it's not true. Best was a great all round player he could do it all. Dribble, pass, score goals, good in the air, fit as fuck and a tough little bastard.
You're putting down players like Hunter and Mackay, Dave Mackay was a great player, these players brought through in the modern game would still be great players in fact they'd be better.
George Best would be an absolute sensation in the modern game, defenders wouldn't be able to go through the back of him, he wouldn't be playing on glue pot surfaces half the time, the modern game is made for George Best.
For some reason because of the time he played in George Best and others from his time are almost laughed at by some on here, but I'd put him up there among any of them.
drop a motivated messi back in 1966 in his current physical shape and he would get you 2-3 a game week in week out.
Fuckin hell he would have laughed a the tactics and had it sorted in 15 mins.
Some of this is so far off the mark it's not true. Best was a great all round player he could do it all. Dribble, pass, score goals, good in the air, fit as fuck and a tough little bastard.
You're putting down players like Hunter and Mackay, Dave Mackay was a great player, these players brought through in the modern game would still be great players in fact they'd be better.
George Best would be an absolute sensation in the modern game, defenders wouldn't be able to go through the back of him, he wouldn't be playing on glue pot surfaces half the time, the modern game is made for George Best.
For some reason because of the time he played in George Best and others from his time are almost laughed at by some on here, but I'd put him up there among any of them.
But throw George Best from the 1960s/70s straight into the game now and he wouldn't be as good, simply due to the difference in physicality. He'd be too slow and unfit.
But if the 17 year old Best joined Man U now, he'd have the benefit of better training methods. I'd go so far as to say the improved methods of looking after players would have delayed his decline, if not prevented it entirely.
You have to be able to imagine how a player from a different era (and this includes Messi going back to the 60s) would perform, given the attitudes and training methods of that era.
But if the 17 year old Best joined Man U now, he'd have the benefit of better training methods. I'd go so far as to say the improved methods of looking after players would have delayed his decline, if not prevented it entirely.
You have to be able to imagine how a player from a different era (and this includes Messi going back to the 60s) would perform, given the attitudes and training methods of that era.
For what it is worth it is all about what you want a footballer to do on the field and how his skills bring you enjoyment and give you memories . For me I enjoy footballers with guile and vision . Messi is a great player but I have to say I enjoyed watching Best more and I saw him many times. He was a joy to watch simple as that . I was brought up on a diet of Puskas and Di Stefano and I still think these two were by far better footballers than Messi . Cruyff was majestic , Pele and the Brazilian team of 1970 were , in my opinion , the greatest set of foot ballers I have ever seen . Maradonna , not my cup of tea , simple power . As for the game being better now because of training methods , sports scientists etc .....utter tosh . I have seen some truely brilliant footballers who would walk into modern football . Remember the competition to succeed was far greater than it is now . 1930 `s for example , well before my time , but for many of the footballers then it was be good or the pit for life . some have commented on here about defenders not being as good say in the 60`s than there are now . Rubbish !!! Mackay for example was one of the greatest footballers I have ever seen . Please do not rubbish the memories of some of these players in the early 60`s there were some brilliant players . Greatest individual performances I ever saw were by Jonny Haynes , Jimmy Johnstone . Best ever .........Pele. My Dad who died fairly recently saw Messi . Ronaldo , etc ect and he thought they were wonderful players but he stuck by his guns and said they were simply not on the same level as Puskas .
The game is easily played to a higher standard now thanks to modern training methods. Fitness for example is something which the older generation couldnt compare with the current.